Native led "ban" on moose hunting in BC expanded...

[45ACPKING]

This thread is going down a road away from the original topic but whatever...... Minister Goodale said out loud that the liberal's would be looking at measures to reduce canadians need and desire to own firearms. He was not talking about crimminal canadians , he was talking about all canadians. Especially sports shooters, target shooters, gun collectors and you betcha... hunters.
So it should come to no surprise that things are happening , pretty much in every province and territory, to throw the hunting communities and sports shooting communities into chaos and disarray and to shame them in the public eye.

I'm quite sick of it all and sold off every firearm I own that can not be exported permanently into the US.
The wife and I are committed to retiring in alaska and have been working to that end for 2 years now. The Jay treaty gets me into the US thru a simple process , the wife is jumping thru all the required hoops..... but we'll get there.... and the moose hunting will be grand.... and I can reopen a firearms related business where I will be welcomed and encouraged

 

[torontogungal]

The civilian disarmament movement is global.
The retreat (pack up and move) policy is flawed and you will eventually become painted into a corner as the liberal antis bring the fight to you whatever jurisdiction you flee to.
You can run but you can’t hide.
These things need to be fought in place.
Running gets you a little time.
Much less than you think.

 

[45ACPKING]

The civilian disarmament movement is global.
The retreat (pack up and move) policy is flawed and you will eventually become painted into a corner as the liberal antis bring the fight to you whatever jurisdiction you flee to.
You can run but you can’t hide.
These things need to be fought in place.
Running gets you a little time.
Much less than you think.

girl..... I got 15 good years left ..... my body is too buggered to last much longer as far as hunting goes..... If I'm real lucky I might make it 20 but it's all down hill from there.
So you enjoy the good fight here at home..... I'm gettin out while the getting is good haha

 

[1899]

The civilian disarmament movement is global.
The retreat (pack up and move) policy is flawed and you will eventually become painted into a corner as the liberal antis bring the fight to you whatever jurisdiction you flee to.
You can run but you can’t hide.
These things need to be fought in place.
Running gets you a little time.
Much less than you think.

The pendulum has, I think, reached its apex. Doug Ford being able to form a government is a good example, and hopefully the beginning, of change in this country. Politicians and those who are thinking of participating in public office should take note.


And now back on topic with info that might affect some CGN members directly, and all of us indirectly:

https://kaskadenacouncil.com/download/notice-of-kaska-nation-hunting-closure-due-to-wildfire-impacts-press-release/?wpdmdl=4226&masterkey=5b906fb62b2da

Kaska Leadership has asked in the letter to the Province: “Based on your Government’s strong commitment to respect Indigenous Title and Rights, and fully implement the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, we respectfully request the Province of British Columbia’s assistance in prohibiting all hunting activities by way of a temporary hunting closure”.

 

[1899]

Digging a little deeper we find that the Kaska have actually started a lawsuit against the government of Yukon, stating that the government must consult with them prior to issuing hunting licenses. There is no decision yet - but I suspect there will be one within a month or two. What will it mean if the judge says that the government must consult prior to issuing hunting licenses? Add that the to requirements set out in Bill C262 and UNDRIP and I can realistically foresee a future with very little hunting for non-aboriginals unless you have purchased a permit to do so from the appropriate band - Hey, you want to go sheep hunting? Well a stone sheep hunt in Northern BC is going for $60,000. Why don't we just grant permits to whoever we want for $30,000 - take it or leave it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/kaska-dena-territory-hunting-lawsuit-1.4743083

https://www.yukon-news.com/news/kaska-dena-council-hunting-consultation-trial-wraps-up/

 

[1899]

45ACPKING - Don't you find it ironic that the Canadian taxpayer - your kids - could be on the hook for "paying the debt" to your grandfather? It's not going to be the corporations, I can tell you that right now. It will be the working class stiff who, as usual, gets to pay the (never-ending) bill.

Take a look at this demand:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/kaska-dena-council-land-claim-1.4160268

The Kaska Dena Council is asking the federal government for what would be the largest land claim payout in Canadian history: $1.5 billion.
The group wants the money paid out as a lump sum, unlike most land claims which are paid out over many years. It also seeks an additional $50 million every year in perpetuity for a yet-undefined "Kaska entity."

It also sets terms for almost complete political control of land, asking the federal government to ensure "that the Government of Yukon will not have administration and control over the Kaska territory."

The letter asks that the Yukon Act — the territory's very foundation in law —would have "no force and effect in or on the Kaska territory."

This is where Canada is heading?

 

[Can-down]

“Baby steps”
Reminds me of that nauseating fall of 2015 mantra on here by the throng of CPC shills trying to force feed us c42.
I’m going to vote CPC.
Are you allowed to take a barf bag into the ballot booth?
I’ll try not to get any on my shoes.

What do you suggest?

 

[MiG25]

This thread is going down a road away from the original topic but whatever...... Minister Goodale said out loud that the liberal's would be looking at measures to reduce canadians need and desire to own firearms. He was not talking about crimminal canadians , he was talking about all canadians. Especially sports shooters, target shooters, gun collectors and you betcha... hunters.
So it should come to no surprise that things are happening , pretty much in every province and territory, to throw the hunting communities and sports shooting communities into chaos and disarray and to shame them in the public eye.

I'm quite sick of it all and sold off every firearm I own that can not be exported permanently into the US.
The wife and I are committed to retiring in alaska and have been working to that end for 2 years now. The Jay treaty gets me into the US thru a simple process , the wife is jumping thru all the required hoops..... but we'll get there.... and the moose hunting will be grand.... and I can reopen a firearms related business where I will be welcomed and encouraged

How does the Jay Treaty get you into Alaska? It requires a 50% Blood Quantum. If you had that you'd have Indian Status and so would your children.

 

[MiG25]

Also moose were introduced to the Caribou by the provincial government between 1910 and 1915.

What's your source for this? In 1905 the Forest and Game Warden for the Province of BC wrote regarding Moose "these animals are numerous near Quesnel Lake".

And in 1911 "In the Fort George country, moose do not seem to be as plentiful as they were". Although I don't think that Prince George is technically in the Cariboo it is next door.

 

[DT741]

“Baby steps”
Reminds me of that nauseating fall of 2015 mantra on here by the throng of CPC shills trying to force feed us c42.
I’m going to vote CPC.
Are you allowed to take a barf bag into the ballot booth?
I’ll try not to get any on my shoes.

Did you need a barf bag in 2015 when you voted for legal weed ?

 

[45ACPKING]

How does the Jay Treaty get you into Alaska? It requires a 50% Blood Quantum. If you had that you'd have Indian Status and so would your children.

blood quantum is not always the deciding factor as many status and non status indigenous people do not have blood quantum but are still Indians under the Indian Act.
I am working thru proper channels and US based immigration firm. They sent me the jay treaty information , I sent my documentation and was told it should be a simple process and that though blood quantum was not always the decciding factor, especially when it came to Metis. I'm not super educated in all this, I just know the general stuff based on what my representative in the states has told me thus far.

where blood quantum comes into play is when a person discovers aboriginal ancestry later in life and was adopted by non aboriginal family or raised in state care/foster care ect and was never identified as aboriginal on paper.

 

[45ACPKING]

45ACPKING - Don't you find it ironic that the Canadian taxpayer - your kids - could be on the hook for "paying the debt" to your grandfather? It's not going to be the corporations, I can tell you that right now. It will be the working class stiff who, as usual, gets to pay the (never-ending) bill.

Take a look at this demand:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/kaska-dena-council-land-claim-1.4160268







This is where Canada is heading?

ya dude , i dunno about all that stuff. Some big heads out there with grand ideas that's for sure.

Unfortunately, my true feelings on these subjects can't be expressed here. It's not the appropriate venue for it.
If we were sitting around face to face I could express myself in a way that would be much more acceptable LOL but I just can't seem to do that here.

 

[woodchopper]

yes this thread has wandered of the topic into all sorts of places not hunting related.