G19X is HERE!!!!

I got a chance to shoot one today. I've always wanted to love Glock, but it never loved me back so I wound up selling them after a while. I used the medium grip insert with beaver tail and this is the first one that pointed properly for me.

I didn't like the colour but it's already grown on me.

I ordered one after shooting it.
 
I got a chance to shoot one today. I've always wanted to love Glock, but it never loved me back so I wound up selling them after a while. I used the medium grip insert with beaver tail and this is the first one that pointed properly for me.

I didn't like the colour but it's already grown on me.

I ordered one after shooting it.

Well done, I'm trying mine with a Hogue? my biggest "take away" was the accuracy!! very noticeable between the 19X and my Gen 2 19. Congrats.
 
I've owned many G17's and I was shooting a M&P, PX4, G17 gen 4 and the G19X today. My M&P and the 19X were too close to call for better accuracy. I have always preferred the Glock trigger and reset. My only complaint with the 19X (and I have this with most pistols) is I want a notch or stippling at the front of the slide so my thumb doesn't slip on rapid fire.
 
At the rate they’re selling them in tan and the user it was designed for, I think it will be a long time until they come in black.
 
At the rate they’re selling them in tan and the user it was designed for, I think it will be a long time until they come in black.

Who is the user it was designed for?

Glock's description:
"GLOCK's first ever "Crossover" pistol, the GLOCK 19X, combines the best features of two of its most popular and most trusted field-tested platforms. The full-size GLOCK 17 frame and the compact GLOCK 19 slide have joined forces to produce the ideal pistol for all conditions and all situations."

I think they did it in coyote to make sure it stood out enough from the rest of their fine firearms. They probably want to test their market with factory coloured slides.
 
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100,000 seems like a lot. Seems. Without context, it's just a number. Is it selling faster than any other new Glock? If they released the 19X in both black and coyote at the same time, what would the sales figures of each be? My original question - more of a pondering - stand; would the 19X sell even better in black?

Not trying to be an @$$, I know almost no one buys a Glock for its looks. I'm happy to hear that it is more accurate than its predecessors and I hope all the people who have one love it and get lots of trigger time. I'm looking forward to shooting one.
 
The fact they have not yet offered the version in black might be your answer to your question. Glock is in business to make money and as aside it does so by making pistols.

Take Care

Bob
 
Now to me, this "Commander" Glock is, the same as Colt, backwards.

The original commander was designed to be a conceal carry 1911. They shortened the slide and left the frame/grip the original length. Now when you conceal carry any pistol, it is the grip that patterns. The idea of concealed carry is to not show the pistol. The slide/barrel can be longer as that is the portion that goes down the pants, with the grip protruding. The Commander should have had a long slide with a short grip to aid in concealment.

Same as this new Glock. The idea or role this pistol is supposed to have or does have, more in the U.S. than Canada, is one of a concealed firearm a little larger than the sub-compact models. However, they did this backwards as well.

If the use is just as a shooter, as it is up here and yes indeed more gripable area is a plus, then why shorten your slide/barrel/sight radius length? Those measures do nothing to enhance your shooting platform.

Granted, I understand something new/different/fun, and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm just thinking the 10X larger market may have missed the intended users.

Sort of, "what's the point"?
 
koldt you are ignoring the fact the commander is a single stack gun and when carried in an OWB holster with an FBI cant it just does not print on most people. The original Commander was an aluminum alloy frame version designed for Officers was it not and chambered in 9MM? Later it was produced with an all steel frame called the Combat Commander.

Most double stack guns really do print with a regular frame as you suggest...the single stacks not so much.

Take Care

Bob
 
Now to me, this "Commander" Glock is, the same as Colt, backwards.

The original commander was designed to be a conceal carry 1911. They shortened the slide and left the frame/grip the original length. Now when you conceal carry any pistol, it is the grip that patterns. The idea of concealed carry is to not show the pistol. The slide/barrel can be longer as that is the portion that goes down the pants, with the grip protruding. The Commander should have had a long slide with a short grip to aid in concealment.

Same as this new Glock. The idea or role this pistol is supposed to have or does have, more in the U.S. than Canada, is one of a concealed firearm a little larger than the sub-compact models. However, they did this backwards as well.

If the use is just as a shooter, as it is up here and yes indeed more gripable area is a plus, then why shorten your slide/barrel/sight radius length? Those measures do nothing to enhance your shooting platform.

Granted, I understand something new/different/fun, and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm just thinking the 10X larger market may have missed the intended users.

Sort of, "what's the point"?
Glock designed it for the new US Army side arm trials. CCW is last thing they had in mind when they made it. Glock didn't get the contract however it still turned out to be a winner! I personally can see a why. I can't CCW and for me regular Glock 19 does not feel comfortable with a shorter grip, that's why I have a Glock 17 and why I'll probably eventually get the 19x
 
Once my transfer goes through, hopefully tomorrow, Glock 19X will be mine! Will have to figure out if I want to remove the little mag-well toe and fit the Agency Arms Gen4 mag-well I have sitting around...


Been out of the Glock game for a long time. Do the Glock23 .40 cal mags fit the G19X ?

Extra rounds are always welcomed :)

No they do not as the G19X is a G17 frame with G19 slide/barrel

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That said, Glock 22 magazines will work this way. Unreliably and not advised... But they do sometimes work.

I don't want to be a d*ck either but it is a slide release on the Glock, it was designed to be used as a slide release, there is no other use for it. The Gen 5 release is a little larger and a lot more useful. Bob Vogel, a world champion IPSC Production and IDPA shooter, uses the slide release on his Glock 17/34's in competition because hitting the slide release is faster and he says so in his videos. Doesn't look near as tacticool as the sling shot method but is is faster. Your Universe is not as large as you think.

For the doomsday zombie crowd faster might mean you live another day.

Take Care

Bob
Glock Armorer here, it's a slide stop, not a slide release.


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We were specifically told at our Glock Armorers course that it was designed as a slide stop, and not a release. Hence the small form factor of the original slide stop component. The competition extended "slide release" part was designed after the fact due to demand. Nothing will change the fact that using the slide stop as a slide release WILL eventually induce wear on either the slide or the slide stop, causing the functionality to be lost over time. Then parts need to get replaced.

However, it's a moot point. The amount of use required to destroy the functionality of the parts is so high that you'd have to literally use the slide stop as a release every single time you let the slide go... And probably shoot 50,000 rounds or more through the firearm before it even became an issue. Not something that most people will ever need to worry about.

So go ahead and do whatever you train for. Personally, I power stroke.

Now to me, this "Commander" Glock is, the same as Colt, backwards.

The original commander was designed to be a conceal carry 1911. They shortened the slide and left the frame/grip the original length. Now when you conceal carry any pistol, it is the grip that patterns. The idea of concealed carry is to not show the pistol. The slide/barrel can be longer as that is the portion that goes down the pants, with the grip protruding. The Commander should have had a long slide with a short grip to aid in concealment.

Same as this new Glock. The idea or role this pistol is supposed to have or does have, more in the U.S. than Canada, is one of a concealed firearm a little larger than the sub-compact models. However, they did this backwards as well.

If the use is just as a shooter, as it is up here and yes indeed more gripable area is a plus, then why shorten your slide/barrel/sight radius length? Those measures do nothing to enhance your shooting platform.

Granted, I understand something new/different/fun, and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm just thinking the 10X larger market may have missed the intended users.

Sort of, "what's the point"?
I shared the same concern when purchasing mine and debating between a Glock 17 Gen5 or the 19X. I settled on the 19X because it's still a Gen5 gun essentially but also a lot more unique. Although I agree with your assessment on the length of the grip playing a large part in concealability, in Canada it's a moot point. Unless you're a very special snowflake you aren't conceal carrying here, 99.9% of civilians will only conceal carry a firearm here legally during an IDPA tournament on a range. Technically you're supposed to be as incognito as possible during these stages, but you don't normally get dinged for printing as much as you would at something like an IDPA tournament in the USA. People who run IDPA up here are smart enough to realize that expecting everything to invest in a completely proper conceal carry setup in Canada is silly.

As for the reduced sight radius/barrel/slide stuff... The sight radius reduction is something like 0.25 - 0.5 inches. If this actually makes a difference for anyone in reality, they must be a far FAR better shot with a pistol than I am. In my opinion though, this isn't going to realize itself in any kind of real world benchmark with an average shooter. Most people don't have consistent enough sight alignment and trigger control on their best day for this to influence the outcome of any accuracy comparisons.

Barrel is extended in Canada, so 107mm vs the 114mm (?) or so on a Glock 17. Again, negligible. It's also the "marksman barrel". In the US with the proper length shorter barrel, again pretty negligible in reality I think.

Shorter slide, I'm all for it. Lighter weight, better recoil control and snappier theoretically. Might be a little harder on the components but it's a Glock we're talking about here. If you clean it and replace the recoil spring assembly when required, it'll last far beyond the lifetime of the rifling in the barrel!

Since this firearm was designed for the US Army trial, I think they simply shortened the slide and barrel in order to save weight on the overall platform. Not really as much for the concealability factor as much as everyone thinks. The US military doesn't do a whole lot of conceal carry operations... And the guys that do can pretty much pick out whatever pistols they want to use anyway.
 
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Xero there is no penalty in IDPA for "Printing" either here in Canada or anywhere else. No such rule. To my knowledge the issue of printing has never ever come up in serious discussions with HQ. The rules for a concealment garment are the same here in Canada as they are anywhere else in IDPA. It is a game and the rules are the same for everyone. Whether they are enforced the same is a discussion for another time.

I have not looked at the dimensions for the the regular G 19 as it comes to Canada but if the barrel length is =<4 3/8" with the following dimensions (height is =<5 5/8", Length 7 1/4". Width 1 3/8") it could be used in Compact Carry Division. The G19X would not meet the criteria and have to compete in either SSP or ESP Divisions.

Aside from meeting a requirement for the US Army, other than being another Glock version some like to collect, I am not sure what other niche markets the 19X would be aimed at that the G 17 or G19 does not fill. Now if it came with the regular 19 frame and a 4.25" top end it would be a contender in the IDPA CCP Division as is the regular G19 in the US. Maybe there is a latent demand from Law Enforcement for a slightly shorter barrel or less likely Glock felt they needed a pistol to directly compete against the M&P FS and other "Commander" sized striker fired pistols. More likely Glock has the tooling designed for the G19X and decided to make some money by using it.

Take Care

Bob
 
One interesting thing about the G19X I discovered playing with mine: Comes standard with Maritime spring cups. These are pretty hard to come by, and normally only sold to law enforcement / military customers on request.. Pointless for civilian use, but neat to see!
 
Everything about it is Gen 5 except for the bottom of the grip by the magwell. Compare the 2 and you'll see why the 19x uses Gen 4 mags. From looking at it, I don't think a Gen 5 mag will work with it

You are right though... You think too much

At the range down here in the US I stuck my 17 Gen 5 mag in the 19x I rented, and it just fell right out. So 17 Gen 5 mags are out for the 19x. Bummer since I have 6 Gen 5 mags and it would have been nice to use them in the 19x. But the 17 Gen 5 mags worked perfectly in the 19 Gen 5.
 
One interesting thing about the G19X I discovered playing with mine: Comes standard with Maritime spring cups. These are pretty hard to come by, and normally only sold to law enforcement / military customers on request.. Pointless for civilian use, but neat to see!

Was yours purchased as a civilian gun or through Rampart?
 
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