My 22 shoots 1/2" groups at 50 yards/meters all day! Really? Prove it!

When I returned to shooting a few years back after an interruption for family and career, I got a few good air rifles for shooting at my now elderly parents' summer place on beautiful Lake Penage. The nearest neighbours hardly knew of my private range as the air rifles were not loud enough to disturb them and I enjoyed shooting for hours at a time. Among my finest rifles were several Weihrauchs, spring piston rifles and PCP's (pre-charged pneumatics). They were top quality rifles and the PCP's were very accurate at the maximum 40 yards I had to shoot. I might still have them if my parents had not sold the Penage property and thus caused me to find a range to shoot at.

Recently I had the opportunity to get a few Weihrauch .22LR rifles. Today I had my 1994-made HW66 Jagd Match. It seems like a mix of running boar and silhouette rifle and Jagd Match simply means "hunting match". Weihrauch says it is designed for "hunter's target practice." In any case, it is a very well built rifle and is made in .17 HMR, .17 HM2, .17 Hornet, .22 Hornet, and .222 Remington. Mine is a repeater with double set triggers. The rifle is available as a single shot and with a regular match trigger.

The results here aren't especially remarkable. It is one of those rifles that can shoot four of five very nice groups very often. Today I took what I could get. Recent extraneous posts showed unmeasured and potentially questionable groups, so the sizes of several of the groups are shown in case there is any concern about them.






The groups from left to right: .401, .485, .466, .393, .488" Average group: .447"
The ammunition used was SK Rifle Match.
The distance is 57 yards.
The scope is a Sightron SII 36X.

Here is the rifle, shown with a rest that has a Greenlaw top which is not only windage adjustable but also has an adjustable front bag. It goes on the Caldwell BR base. I got the Greenlaw top at the end of last week and tried it out today for the first time. I like the new top as it can accommodate a variety of rifles with different size forearms.

 
grauhanen said:
When I returned to shooting a few years back after an interruption for family and career, I got a few good air rifles for shooting at my now elderly parents' summer place on beautiful Lake Penage. The nearest neighbours hardly knew of my private range as the air rifles were not loud enough to disturb them and I enjoyed shooting for hours at a time. Among my finest rifles were several Weihrauchs, spring piston rifles and PCP's (pre-charged pneumatics). They were top quality rifles and the PCP's were very accurate at the maximum 40 yards I had to shoot. I might still have them if my parents had not sold the Penage property and thus caused me to find a range to shoot at.

Recently I had the opportunity to get a few Weihrauch .22LR rifles. Today I had my 1994-made HW66 Jagd Match. It seems like a mix of running boar and silhouette rifle and Jagd Match simply means "hunting match". Weihrauch says it is designed for "hunter's target practice." In any case, it is a very well built rifle and is made in .17 HMR, .17 HM2, .17 Hornet, .22 Hornet, and .222 Remington. Mine is a repeater with double set triggers. The rifle is available as a single shot and with a regular match trigger.

The results here aren't especially remarkable. It is one of those rifles that can shoot four of five very nice groups very often. Today I took what I could get. Recent extraneous posts showed unmeasured and potentially questionable groups, so the sizes of several of the groups are shown in case there is any concern about them.






The groups from left to right: .401, .485, .466, .393, .488" Average group: .447"
The ammunition used was SK Rifle Match.
The distance is 57 yards.
The scope is a Sightron SII 36X.

Here is the rifle, shown with a rest that has a Greenlaw top which is not only windage adjustable but also has an adjustable front bag. It goes on the Caldwell BR base. I got the Greenlaw top at the end of last week and tried it out today for the first time. I like the new top as it can accommodate a variety of rifles with different size forearms.

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Added to the grauhanen successful list. Lol. Nice shooting.
 
Here is another Weihrauch, an HW66 Production. I got this rifle new while my range was closed during the summer and have only recently had the chance to shoot it. As a sporter it seems a little capricious. It is capable of some really tight groups -- although not yet five of them in a row.




From left to right: .408, .332, .492, .476, .268"
Average group size: .395"

Ammo used was SK Rifle Match.
Distance was 57 yards.

Here is the HW66 P with a Sightron SII 36X.

 
grauhanen said:
Here is another Weihrauch, an HW66 Production. I got this rifle new while my range was closed during the summer and have only recently had the chance to shoot it. As a sporter it seems a little capricious. It is capable of some really tight groups -- although not yet five of them in a row.




From left to right: .408, .332, .492, .476, .268"
Average group size: .395"

Ammo used was SK Rifle Match.
Distance was 57 yards.

Here is the HW66 P with a Sightron SII 36X.

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My Anschütz just returned from Korth in Alberta. It was tested with about 10 lots of Eley Tenex. More info about it in this post: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1774878-Eley-Mobile-Testing-Range-in-Canada

Here's a pic of some of the groups shot during this testing session (sorry but as these groups were fired on an eletronic target, I can't provide a pic with a caliper)

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The average of the seven 10-shot groups in this pic, at 50 meters is .333'' (.367'' - .311'' - .394'' - .362'' - .331'' - .296'' - .268'')

And finally, here's what the rest looked like:

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Paul
 
Gillis2 said:
Paul, that is impressive, to say the least. Now you know what the barrelled action is capable of.

Gilbert
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Thank you Gilbert !

Even though these groups are very good, I know that my rifle can do even better. Finding the magical lot is a never ending quest...
 
I would be interested to find out what my Annies can do with other ammo types. Sorry, some hillbilly telling me which lot of Tenex is the best for my rifles has no appeal whatsoever.
 
250-25X said:
My Anschütz just returned from Korth in Alberta. It was tested with about 10 lots of Eley Tenex. More info about it in this post: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1774878-Eley-Mobile-Testing-Range-in-Canada

Here's a pic of some of the groups shot during this testing session (sorry but as these groups were fired on an eletronic target, I can't provide a pic with a caliper)

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The average of the seven 10-shot groups in this pic, at 50 meters is .333'' (.367'' - .311'' - .394'' - .362'' - .331'' - .296'' - .268'')

And finally, here's what the rest looked like:

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Paul
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Very nice, now lets see if you can preform as well as a bolted down action. thing is a damn rail gun at that point.

15567 said:
I would be interested to find out what my Annies can do with other ammo types. Sorry, some hillbilly telling me which lot of Tenex is the best for my rifles has no appeal whatsoever.
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Never judge a book by his cover.

I dont a guy with a 3 piece to stick ammo in my gun, close the bolt and pull the trigger.
 
grauhanen said:
Recent extraneous posts showed unmeasured and potentially questionable groups...
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In order to relieve troubled mind from thoughts of questionable integrity, allow me to remove all doubt of authenticity. I do not make postings I cannot stand behind.





You will note that I use 0.210" as my raw group correction factor, as I do not require the handicap of using a correction factor larger than the actual holes on the paper, permissible as it may be according to the challenge rules. It is curious how my posting might be considered "extraneous", as 40 consecutive sub 1/2" groupings would appear to be the very embodiment of "1/2" all day". So, who will step up and surpass my long run? You'll require a very capable rifle ;)
 
grauhanen said:
Rabid, my reference was not to your post.
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Mmm, it was not clear who you were referencing, and I did not include caliper pics in my preceding post, therefore I thought it plausible it was me being called out. In any case, if anyone else thought my target might have had questionable groups (and yes, one of them was quite a squeaker coming in just under the mark), the air has been cleared.

Today was a good day at the range, as I had the odd afternoon shift I was able to get out and enjoy the calm morning. I brought out a rifle I haven't shot in 5 months, as it essentially only gets fed the ammo any of my other rifles don't like. I had hopes it would eventually make the challenge, I just honestly thought it would have taken longer. I shot two boxes of Eley HVHP, and it wasn't really stunning in general but then some magic happened on the last 5 groups... It was actually quite an accomplishment, considering the rough start I had with the barrel and all the work it took to get it sorted out, a year and a half in the making. The story can be found here: https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1070657&highlight=case+study The short and skinny; re-crown and chamber lapping. Also did most of the usual accurizing such as pillar/bedding, yo-dave kit, bolt/striker polish, but the biggie was the chamber lap. Oh yeah, this is the second factory barreled rifle I've posted to the list! Technically 3rd, because my Weatherby XXII's barrel was a factory take off from a 1416 Annie, but we're talkin' OEM what the rifle came with here.

CZ 455 Full Stock
Sightron SII 6-24x Fine Duplex
Caldwell Rock W/ Narrow Front, Caldwell Rear
Eley HV Hollow Point
Groups: 0.304", 0.267", 0.458", 0.455". 0.405"
Avg: 0.378"







Personally, I find the most difficult part of this challenge to be ensuring the rifle is mechanically capable of delivering 25 accurate shots in a row. Once it is, I find the actual execution of the shooting to be rather... routine. Accuracy is the expected result of a well made rifle. If it ain't happening, something's wrong....
 
A few years back, when I began to more seriously think about shooting, I used to think how good a shot I might be if only I had one of those top notch BR style rifles made by Anschutz, like the 54.30. Somehow I imagined that simply having one would make me a better shot. That may be a fallacy that helps explain why there have been more 54.30's exchanged on the EE over the past two years than any other Anschutz BR rifle. Since then I've learned that, while it's imperative to have a rifle capable of good accuracy, no rifle shoots on its own and practice is absolutely necessary to improve technique and results. My first targets with this rifle back in June were proof of this.

Prior to today, I shot just under three bricks of ammo with this rifle, having had to be patient during a range closure of over seventy days this summer. Yesterday I shot it for the first time since June and today I thought I could improve on those results. Although today's results are promising, there is still room for improvement. The rifle is stock as it came to me from the dealer. The ammo was not lot tested.






From left to right: .337, .257, .298, .289, .207"

Average: .278"

Edit to add this target, which I overlooked.




From left to right: .174, .284, .354, .426, .195"

Average: .287"

The distance was 57 yards. The ammo was Center X. The scope is a Sightron SIII 10-50. The front rest bag is a new Protektor with the "Super Slick Silver Material".

 
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Nice shooting Glenn,
About the same kind of results I get from my 54.30 but only when I shoot well which is not always. Goes to show with this rifle, I am the limiting factor...

Gilbert
 
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