New SK trespassing laws coming soon

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Not at all. Your strawman argument doesent srand up to even the simplest scrutiny.

I’m in favour of strengthening property rights. Handgun ownership is a property rights issue the same as trespass laws. I’d like to see harsher penalties for all types of trespass, whether it’s prople damaging my crops or thieves stealing my handguns, it’s all the same in my assessment.

But I’ll sit back and let you explain how improving Saskatchewan trespass laws will cause a handgun ban, since you brought it up.

You have the right to control who goes on your property now. The new law does not make that right stronger.

You can have harsher penalties without changing the law. Trespassing is already illegal just raise the fines or stiffen the penalties.

Never said it would CAUSE a handgun ban. Said the logic behind both are the same.

We have to kinds of people that have handguns, those that cause damage and those that don't.
The government wants to make owning a handgun a crime in the belief that those that do harm will stop. We know it will only adversely effect those who do no harm now.

Same as hunting. Two groups, those who cause damage and those who don't.
You want to make everyone who accesses the land guilty of a crime in the belief those who ignore signs and do damage will stop.
When in actuality those hunters that access the land without any harm are the only ones adversely affected.
 
So like I said from the start this is all about a few butt hurt farmers feeling disrespected.

Just the opposite actually. The vast majority of Saskatchewan farmers want to see the changes, it’s a few butthurt socialist ‘hunters’ that are against the new common sense law proposal.
 
You have the right to control who goes on your property now. The new law does not make that right stronger.
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Why can’t landowners who want unrestricted access to their land post it as such?

“All hunters welcome-permission not required”

You’ve mentioned numerous times in this thread how easy it is to post land, well, have at it.


The changes are coming whether you like it or not, get used to it.
 
Why can’t landowners who want unrestricted access to their land post it as such?

“All hunters welcome-permission not required”

You’ve mentioned numerous times in this thread how easy it is to post land, well, have at it.


The changes are coming whether you like it or not, get used to it.

If the law changes we may have too.

Still won't solve your damage problems. But you will be able to walk a little taller with your newly gained "respect"
 
So this has too do with hunters in Saskatchewan in what way? You have absolutely no idea how hunting and hunting laws have existed here for 70 yrs. trespassers are not hunters, hunters are not trespassers in Saskatchewan. I guess some of us see a bigger picture here. And some of us are not so selfish that we think we do more than caretake our land for future generations. I actually like to see young hunters out with their dads on my land. Meet some new friends, enjoy the hunt. I may own the land, but I don’t own the wildlife.
And yes, there are douchebag atvers, skiddoers, fishermen, and hunters. If they cause damage to your property or livestock, laws already exist. And thieves. Follow any court cases lately?
In the 40 yrs I’ve owned land here I’ve had one or two times that I felt the need to have something “handy”. Never once has it been with people hunting. Other than “don’t hunt that way as there is a house over the hill”, I’ve not had a bad experience with hunters.
Thieves are another story. We don’t tend to rely on the goberment out in my part of Canada. The wait times are in the hours. Funny how thieves seem to decide on a new vocation when a landowner objects to their presence. “Did you phone the rc’s? Nah, they won’t be back...”
perhaps those acreage owners surrounded by crown land feel superior to the city/town folks who might want to walk a shelter belt for some sharpies. Maybe those 2500 acre owners feel they should not allow anyone on their land, 10 miles from occupied dwellings, well just because it’s mine. Pull up an rm map and tell me who owns what, and how to get ahold of them before you talk about trespassers. Post your damn land if you don’t want hunters. 4 bloody signs per 1/4, woop de doo. And enjoy Justin’s son restricting you to pellet guns in 10 yrs because we have no firearm owners left.

Four bloody signs per quarter @ $20 each times fifty quarters plus travel time, mileage, fuel, labour, damaged signs, stolen signs, etc. So that runs to $4000 plus all because you can’t make a phone call?
The last quarter of land I bought was north of $400,000, you can afford me a little dignity and spend five minutes asking for permission to hunt.
 
Four bloody signs per quarter @ $20 each times fifty quarters plus travel time, mileage, fuel, labour, damaged signs, stolen signs, etc. So that runs to $4000 plus all because you can’t make a phone call?
The last quarter of land I bought was north of $400,000, you can afford me a little dignity and spend five minutes asking for permission to hunt.

So the guy worth 20 million dollars is crying about $4000.00?

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Yep, like the handgun ban will solve shootings.

Why do you keep going back to this illogical strawman?

The same people that want handgun bans also want full access to non-posted private property, state funded daycare, the end of fossil fuels and the implementation of a living wage.
 
Why do you keep going back to this illogical strawman?

The same people that want handgun bans also want full access to non-posted private property, state funded daycare, the end of fossil fuels and the implementation of a living wage.

Sorry but the people in favor of the handgun ban believe it will lead to less crime. Just like you believe trespass laws will lead to less damage by hunters.

Those people also believe in increased government regulation solving their problems, real or imagined.
 
With your cheerful disposition skhunter I can see why your worried about having to actually talk to land owners and get their permission to hunt. Get used to some disappointment in the future.
 
With your cheerful disposition skhunter I can see why your worried about having to actually talk to land owners and get their permission to hunt. Get used to some disappointment in the future.

Again, I am a landowner. I have more to worry about than Joe Blow accessing my land and leaving it as he found it.

The more moose they take the less time I need to spend fixing fence and rounding up cows.
 
You have the right to control who goes on your property now. The new law does not make that right stronger.

You can have harsher penalties without changing the law. Trespassing is already illegal just raise the fines or stiffen the penalties.

Never said it would CAUSE a handgun ban. Said the logic behind both are the same.

We have to kinds of people that have handguns, those that cause damage and those that don't.
The government wants to make owning a handgun a crime in the belief that those that do harm will stop. We know it will only adversely effect those who do no harm now.

Same as hunting. Two groups, those who cause damage and those who don't.
You want to make everyone who accesses the land guilty of a crime in the belief those who ignore signs and do damage will stop.
When in actuality those hunters that access the land without any harm are the only ones adversely affected.

LOL

There it is again, its not "the land" it is privately owned land. The only ones that will be affected are the ones that are trespassing on private land. Don't want to be affected don't trespass

Shawn
 
Nobody is suggesting they should be able to access a farmers house without permission.

No, I am referring to property, and the ownership of it. And non-owners (tresspassers) feeling free to use it as if they DID own it.
My reference was to liken the act of a tresspassing hunter, to that of me entering their home in the city, without their permission.
 
I 100% agree with SKHUNTER. This new law will change nothing to ethical hunters. Jackasses will still be #######s.

I think you out of province folks dont realise that 85% of the land in the south is private. Trespassing on POSTED land is already illegal. This law will also apply to snowmobilers, who for the most part, farmers dont give a #### about. Posted land is seldom trespassed on, and it is typicaly "locals" who wont give a #### what law you put in there face.

This is going to #### over a lot of good and caring people who dont want to be a bother, but to just go out and have fun. I am a land owner and this new law will not affect me, other then my phone ringing more.

You need to up the fine from a $250.00 ticket to $2000.00 and make the max fine 10,000$. As it sits right now, trespassing in sask is a $250.00 ticket, dont be fooled by people saying its $2k. Its not. Its $2k max, but everyone just pays the $250 and dont dispute it.
 
LOL

There it is again, its not "the land" it is privately owned land. The only ones that will be affected are the ones that are trespassing on private land. Don't want to be affected don't trespass

Shawn

So by that logic the handgun ban will only affect those illegally accessing guns.

Don't want to be affected don't illegally access guns.
 
No, I am referring to property, and the ownership of it. And non-owners (tresspassers) feeling free to use it as if they DID own it.
My reference was to liken the act of a tresspassing hunter, to that of me entering their home in the city, without their permission.

People who use my land like they own it are the best types to be on it.
 
People who use my land like they own it are the best types to be on it.

?WTF?
So you're good with me entering your apartment whenever I wish to, as long as I wipe my shoes and treat it like I own it?
I'm sorry, but I don't get it......but as long as you do....
 
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