Guy shoots sow bear with two cubs - What would you do?

Guys - no personal attack stuff. Keep it civil.

Bears are a part of reality here in bc. We used to have 'em pretty regular in the neighbourhood in north van.

If the sow was avoiding human contact as a rule, and was known in the area, and wasn't displaying hostility.. it was a little 'premature' to dust her.

If we went around killing every bear just because they happened to be close to humans, we'd fill landfills with 'em.

This guy should have talked to the CO. As it is - the CO needs to be notified now.
 
Foxer said:
Guys - no personal attack stuff. Keep it civil.

Bears are a part of reality here in bc. We used to have 'em pretty regular in the neighbourhood in north van.

If the sow was avoiding human contact as a rule, and was known in the area, and wasn't displaying hostility.. it was a little 'premature' to dust her.

If we went around killing every bear just because they happened to be close to humans, we'd fill landfills with 'em.

This guy should have talked to the CO. As it is - the CO needs to be notified now.
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We all remember the mass slaughter of bears as they wandered into or near subdivisions. I seen it first hand. The public out cry from British Columbians prompted a reassessment of the strategy of dealing with bears in populated areas. If they are doing no harm they are left alone.
It is the humans inhabiting the subdivisions who must be educated.
 
I know - i'm perfectly aware that's just your way of being 'charming'. :) But I wanted to catch you before you really got going...
 
It's a very unfortunate thing that there are some of us, and thank God only a few that the right of firearm ownership spells death for any creature that happens into their path. :mad:
 
It is also very unfortunate thing that people are dumb enough to put the welfare of an animal before the welfare of people.
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Well if it happens, we'll let you know.

Shooting problem bears at the cottage, a Canadian tradition from 1897-2007
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Problem bears, yes. Any old sow who isn't a threat or a significant' problem - not so much.

Scaring black bears off your property has been a tradition for even longer :)

You don't have to kill everything that moves to deal with it Republic. Often there's an easier and simpler way. And considering it's in a no shoot zone - you need the defense of threat to do it. Which clearly wasn't an issue here.

C'mon - you can't be THAT scared of a black bear that you've got to shoot everyone that looks at you sideways :D - they're just blacks. Not like it was a griz. Or something REALLY scary, like a ruffed grouse or something.
 
Foxer said:
C'mon - you can't be THAT scared of a black bear that you've got to shoot everyone that looks at you sideways :D - they're just blacks. Not like it was a griz. .
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I just threw a 5 galon bucket at one with an ear tag on Monday night at 2:00 in the morning working a night shift. Not scared but realy mad that #1 people create these problem bears and #2 rather than killing them they are dropped off on my door step to deal with.
 
Not scared but realy mad that #1 people create these problem bears and #2 rather than killing them they are dropped off on my door step to deal with.
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Well quite understandable - but those are really two seperate issues here.

There's no indication the bear was being fed, or that anyone had any intent to relocate it.

I'm with you on the whole relocation thing - i think that creates as many (if not more) problems than it solves. Human - habituated doped up and sick feeling bear is now in an area where it doesn't know where the food is, and will be harassed by local bears unhappy about territory infringement. How does that story end?

If it's a genuine problem bear .. dust it. But really we should reserve that for problem bears. If the bear is a real problem - i agree with you 100 percent.
 
H Wally said:
Background: our cabins are located mid-bc. They are part of a community of 100 lots, and almost completely cut off from the outside world. No electricity, water etc etc etc. The community is also bordered by several provincial parks.

Anyways.

So my father just came back from a day trip taking supplies his cabin. Within fifteen minutes of arriving he hears a gun shot and investigates. He discovers one of the communities less than stellar occupants poking a dead sow with a rifle. Two cubs are nearby in trees. This man explains that he saw the sow pulling siding off one of our neighbors old sheds (these have been unused on the properties since I can remember) looking for ants. (ants there will infest anything not used within a year). His logical solution to this problem was to shoot her, despite community rules against discharging firearms, and the fact she is known in the area as the "3 oclock bear" because for the past several years she has walked through the community at 3 pm. In the two years she has been doing this she has avoided people at all costs, even with cubs. It is also widely known she had two cubs.

My question is: realistically, what would you do? Actions have been taken involving Conservation officers, but what would the best course of action be?

Alternatively, it's a very very quiet area up there ;).... what would you do?
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Well, I just included the above quote for your benefit. Care to explain how somebody created "this" problem bear? It just happened to be doing what bears do, trying to feed itself and it's cubs. :bsFlag:
 
Bears need to be relocated.

If the shed was a souce of food you would be unable to scare the bear away from it for long. They will just come back at another time probably that same nite and try again. A bear is hard to make stay away from a food source.
 
If the shed was a souce of food you would be unable to scare the bear away from it for long. They will just come back at another time probably that same nite and try again. A bear is hard to make stay away from a food source.
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I'm wondering if maybe the shed itself was a food source. It sounds like it was old and maybe rotting. In which case - easy to fix, get rid of the shed. Or fix it up.

If the bear won't stay away - THEN you have to do something. But it's a little premature to just go whack it. If you did that everytime a bear was poking around, you'd spend a lot of time burying bears. :)
 
This should have been dealt with by a CO, not a vigilante!!! This bear wasn't being aggressive so it should have been left alone. It all boils down to having morals and common sense, and this local piss tank lacked both. Incidents like this just give ammunition to the anti gun, anti hunting lobbys.
 
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