Possibility of a Canadian Made Bullpup Bolt Action?

driller212

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Hey guys,

I am starting this thread out of my own personal interest, and to see if maybe you might be interested in taking on such a project (assuming there is enough interest).

A Canadian made bullpup bolt action precision rifle sub 3K in cost would be really awesome. There is a huge market gap in this area currently and you could fill it with something unique and functional. If you would be willing to take this on, there are a few (I think obvious) things I would want to see out of it personally:

Available in 16"-24" barrel lengths

Short action and long action models (maybe short action first with long action to follow)

Takes AICS magazines

Adjustable trigger preferably


I just wanted to start this thread to guage interest, however if you are not interested in this, feel free to nuke this thread.

Thank you for your time,

-driller
 
driller212 said:
Hey guys,

I am starting this thread out of my own personal interest, and to see if maybe you might be interested in taking on such a project (assuming there is enough interest).

A Canadian made bullpup bolt action precision rifle sub 3K in cost would be really awesome. There is a huge market gap in this area currently and you could fill it with something unique and functional. If you would be willing to take this on, there are a few (I think obvious) things I would want to see out of it personally:

Available in 16"-24" barrel lengths

Short action and long action models (maybe short action first with long action to follow)

Takes AICS magazines

Adjustable trigger preferably


I just wanted to start this thread to guage interest, however if you are not interested in this, feel free to nuke this thread.

Thank you for your time,

-driller
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Being from BC and doing a lot of shooting in the mountains, a compact but accurate rifle is always welcome for those times my trips take me through thick woods. I have, many times, taken 24" barreled rifles through a forest and knocked nearly every branch around with the barrel.
 
onetwentyish said:
Awesome oportunity to make covert option that takes canada's title as shortest NR. Barrel length and OAL laws would not apply on a factory built bolt action bull pup.

I would be in for something unique like the above^
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OAL will always apply.

However, that being said......the idea is a decent one.
 
CHEMMY said:
OAL will always apply.

However, that being said......the idea is a decent one.
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on a factory non semi auto, OAL doesnt apply. For example the mare's leg is 24 inches overall. But it comes that way from the factory and has a manual action. Same with the 21.5 inch KSG tactical
 
John Rambo said:
on a factory non semi auto, OAL doesnt apply. For example the mare's leg is 24 inches overall. But it comes that way from the factory and has a manual action. Same with the 21.5 inch KSG tactical
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This guy gets it.

CHEMMY said:
OAL will always apply.

However, that being said......the idea is a decent one.
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This guy does not.
 
John Rambo said:
on a factory non semi auto, OAL doesnt apply. For example the mare's leg is 24 inches overall. But it comes that way from the factory and has a manual action. Same with the 21.5 inch KSG tactical
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This.

(c) a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise
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If they don't fold ect, and come that length from the factory, they are not restricted.
 
driller212 said:
Name any sub 3k factory bullpup bolt action. I'll just be here waiting...
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driller, I actually brought this very idea of a bullpup bolt action rifle forward to another Canadian firearms manufacturing company quite a while back. They didn't seem to receptive to the idea due to (in their opinion) the minuscule demand in the Canadian market.

I'd like to think the potential for success with this type of firearm was greatly underestimated by them. There is a HUGE market gap to be filled here (providing it's priced less than what's currently available). We have Desert Tech and then we have.... that's right, NOTHING.

I'd love to see it happen but the only problem I see is the ability to manufacture this with a sub 3k price tag. But I see no reason why it can't be done for a lot less than a Desert Tech.

Keep the design simple. Start with a short action with choice of 223 or 308 bolt face. Use AICS magazines and possibly a simple quick change barrel system like the Savage barrel nut that would allow the user to have different caliber barrels and change them himself with nothing more than a vise, wrench and headspace gauges.

I'd be in for something like this.
 
I’d be in for one in a long a long action thumper round. Short as possible and around the 2k mark would be icing on the cake.
 
jiffx2781 said:
driller, I actually brought this very idea of a bullpup bolt action rifle forward to another Canadian firearms manufacturing company quite a while back. They didn't seem to receptive to the idea due to (in their opinion) the minuscule demand in the Canadian market.

I'd like to think the potential for success with this type of firearm was greatly underestimated by them. There is a HUGE market gap to be filled here (providing it's priced less than what's currently available). We have Desert Tech and then we have.... that's right, NOTHING.

I'd love to see it happen but the only problem I see is the ability to manufacture this with a sub 3k price tag. But I see no reason why it can't be done for a lot less than a Desert Tech.

Keep the design simple. Start with a short action with choice of 223 or 308 bolt face. Use AICS magazines and possibly a simple quick change barrel system like the Savage barrel nut that would allow the user to have different caliber barrels and change them himself with nothing more than a vise, wrench and headspace gauges.

I'd be in for something like this.
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The problems I see is that demand will be very low and as a consequence the costs of R&D will have to be spread over a very small number of guns, which rather effectively kills the sub $3k part, unless a person is ok with crap which I am very doubtful Rick will have any part of. In converstaion with him the programming costs and fixtures for the Sporter still ran close to $50K.
To start up something totally different from what they already do would likely cost significantly more I would guess. Apart from mags everything would need to be made from scratch and given that they appear to be fully immersed in making Sporter for the next year or so anyway, don't see them taking on more expensive high risk projects.
When I picked up my Sporter lower he was grumbling about having to back burner his treasured 20mm project due to not enough time of machines.:(
 
I don’t see how this is a huge market at all. It’s not even a huge market in the USA and the idea that a high quality rifle of this sort would be meaningfully cheaper than 3k is probably a pipe dream.
 
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