"magnumitis"

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If recoil was 90% perception you wouldn't see 6mm, 6.5mm or 7mm at long range match competitions.

Lots of 30s too as shown by the wide selection of heavy, high BC 30 cal bullets out there. 338 Edge and Lapua are a pretty good time as well. You can use up 1% of the remaining 10% on target shooting is you want and save the 9.9% for the ones that really kick. That leaves 90% for perception.
 
I spend almost 3 days a week of gun range and here is what I see everytime:
  • 100% of 22lr, 223 and 22-250 shooters can shot 2-3" 5 shot groups at 100 yards,
  • 75-80% of 6.5mm, 7mm and 30 cal (6.5CM, 7-08, 7Rem Mag, 308, 270, 30-06) medium power cartridge shooters also shot 2-3" 5 shot groups at 100 yards,
  • and barely 50% of shooters using high powered magnums can't hit a 12" x 12" target at 100 yards from a bench
  • (of course the other 50% shoot as well as the the 308 and 30-06 guys)
It's so bad that I don't know if I should laugh or cry!!!

On final statistics, only 23% of US army 7.62 shooters reached expert marksman while 45% of US army 5.56 shooters reached expert marksman.
(Also, do look up David Tubb's opinion on recoil and hunting :


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Off a bench? That’s pretty poor across the board.

My 11 year old son can regularly shoot under 2” groups with my 22-250 and my 6.5 CM. Sounds like the guys at your range need more practice!
 
There seems to be a growing interest in long range hunting, therefore you need to be precise, lots of 6.5 and 7mm used for that. The main reason is less recoil.

I do more long range hunting than most and frequently use 7s over 30s. For me it's about reduced wind drift. My 7-300, 28 Nosler and depending on how I load them STWs kick more then my 300s. It's too bad in a way, because it's a lot easier to keep barrels on .300s.
 
Mostly the 7-300, yes. Used the .270 Weatherby for goats at the beginning while I was scrambling for powder and primers. Grant got me set up with that. I also wanted to maximize the time with my moderator since that was breaking new ground, experience wise. Since I know I was going to have to abandon it; I naturally wanted to put as many miles as I could on it. I left it with Grant; maybe I'll use it again. :)
 
Here' a nifty little thumper that would fit the bill for folks that do long stalks and to push the bush for big critters.

The 50 B&M Super Short. Built on a Winchester M70 WSSM action ye get a 6.5 lb rifle with a 16" barrel that tosses 400 gr bullets at 2200 fps if needed.:cool:
Recoil might concern a few from the bench, but in the bush not so much. I like it.;)
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Mostly the 7-300, yes. Used the .270 Weatherby for goats at the beginning while I was scrambling for powder and primers. Grant got me set up with that. I also wanted to maximize the time with my moderator since that was breaking new ground, experience wise. Since I know I was going to have to abandon it; I naturally wanted to put as many miles as I could on it. I left it with Grant; maybe I'll use it again. :)

After your experience with it if you could run one here, would you? I always want what I can’t have.

Here' a nifty little thumper that would fit the bill for folks that do long stalks and to push the bush for big critters.

The 50 B&M Super Short. Built on a Winchester M70 WSSM action ye get a 6.5 lb rifle with a 16" barrel that tosses 400 gr bullets at 2200 fps if needed.:cool:
Recoil might concern a few from the bench, but in the bush not so much. I like it.;)
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Yep. Cool, thought about something similar.
 
At this point in history, to each his own. I'm not going to tell someone what to use as long as it's ethical. That's my basic duty and I'm sticking to it
 
Here' a nifty little thumper that would fit the bill for folks that do long stalks and to push the bush for big critters.

The 50 B&M Super Short. Built on a Winchester M70 WSSM action ye get a 6.5 lb rifle with a 16" barrel that tosses 400 gr bullets at 2200 fps if needed.:cool:
Recoil might concern a few from the bench, but in the bush not so much. I like it.;)
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I always avoided the SSM's, because when it comes to rebarreling options were so limited. Now I might find myself looking...
 
After your experience with it if you could run one here, would you? I always want what I can’t have.


For some uses a resounding yes. It's insane that we are required to use equipment that will absolutely injure the operator. Besides the noise reduction they reduce recoil to a fraction ; like the most effective brake you ever saw. By comparison a bare barrel is barbaric.��Oo

Downsides don't amount to much. They make the rifle muzzle heavy; which could be designed around. They carbon up barrels fast and heat up quicker. Mine changed my POI 5 MOA.

Kiwis aren't immune to dumb laws though. Hunting with a suppressed AR is fine; mailing a jack-knife is illegal.
 
Its insane that we can't use them. There's no reason for them to be illegal. We have to have mufflers on our lawn mowers but can't have them on our rifles.

Makes perfect sense... they are mostly black and scary and very Americanny/Holliwoody looking...
 
Now could be a good time to ask... is this Magnumitis contagious...? How does one get, welll... tested? I’m nervous I may be affected, new wildcat with a .308 I’m fiddling with below.

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The usually accepted definitive proof is if you have ever unthinkingly uttered the phrase "nice little gun" for something light and between a 300 and .375 mag and meant it.

Short of that, if you have sort concluded that there's nothing a good little fast gun can do that a good bigger and just as fast gun can't do better you're well on your way.
 
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