224 valkyrie who's got them ?

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Im looking at 224 Valkyrie.. Who's got Ammo and rifles in Canada ?


Are we totally left in the dust up here lol ?
 
Been playing with the Valkyrie for a little while now.

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Interesting round for sure BUT I don't think it's everything it's cracked up to be. Plus I don't think 99.9% of shooters (myself included) are going to shoot it at the extreme ranges the round is bragged up to have the ability to be effective at.

Barrel is a Seekins Precision with a 1in7 twist, like most Valkyrie barrels currently available. Not too surprised with my mediocre results with the Federal Premium 90gr Sierra Match King. Results pretty much mimic what you read online. It's been a rarity to achieve sub 1 inch groups. Not impossible to do but I find some inconsistencies with the ammo. Some groups have 4 in tight and 1 random flier throwing the group off to an inch and a half or larger. No, the fliers aren't the fault of the rifle as it would shoot consistant in the .6" - .7" range with the .223 barrel.

Farthest I've shot it is 600 yards (that's the farthest I can safely shoot at my place) and I could hit a 12" plate most times. I attribute the misses to the inconsistency I've noted in the ammo.

Now on a more positive note I'm having excellent results with the Federal Premium 60gr Nosler Ballistic Tip. Ammo is much more consistent with no noticeable unexplained random fliers that I'm getting with the 90's. Groups are also tighter than the 90's.

Problem is using the lightest bullet weight just because it's showing better accuracy results pretty much negates the purpose of the .224 Valkyrie cartridge.

So far my conclusion is that the companies are really pushing their luck with the 90's and a 1in7 twist barrel. I know Federal swears that it's the perfect combination but I'm not convinced. The rounds are all stabilized however my results with the lighter ammo confirm my thoughts that the 90's may be a bit much for the 1in7.

I would really like to get my hands on some Hornady 88gr ELD Match and test the results but have yet to find any in stock.

It would be nice to see Federal or Hornady load some mid weight ammo. I think the 77gr SMK or the 73gr ELD Match would really perform well in the 1in7 twist barrels.

More than likely if I'm going to stick with heavy bullets I'm going to source a 1in6.5 twist barrel and try my luck.
 
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jiff, there is also the 80gr ELDM. I load those in my RPR 223 which is a 7" twist.

I didn't know there was also an 80gr ELD Match. I'm sure if you can get good results with it out of a 223 there should be hope that it would shoot well out of the Valkyrie that has a slightly larger case capacity.

Yup, I'm starting to think I really need to get into hand loading. Never have due to a lack of spare time so I've always relied on trial and error of finding a factory ammo that each rifle liked. I've always managed to find something that gave me good results but this time the only heavy for caliber ammo I've been able to get has turned out less than satisfactory.

Yup, I'm starting to think I really need to make the time to get into hand loading.
 
I’d do 223 in semi auto and 224 Valkyrie in a bolt actiOn

Perhaps a bolt gun with a longer barrel would put up enough velocity to shoot the 90gr stuff better??

A longer barrel on my gas gun isn't going to make much difference. Once the bullet passes the gas port there is very little additional gain.
 
Federal should release an updated 90 smk load.

I run a 1-7 twist barrel with no real crazy performance as everyone has experienced. 1.5 to 2 moa.

Handload with 75 and 80 eld-m were alot better around 3/4 moa BUT..... Only 4 reload at best with federal/hornady and I've heard starline is the same.

So I'll burn all the brass I have and rechambrer In 22 Fat rat or 22 AR( basically a neck down 6.5 Grendel).
 
Federal should release an updated 90 smk load.

I run a 1-7 twist barrel with no real crazy performance as everyone has experienced. 1.5 to 2 moa.

Handload with 75 and 80 eld-m were alot better around 3/4 moa BUT..... Only 4 reload at best with federal/hornady and I've heard starline is the same.

So I'll burn all the brass I have and rechambrer In 22 Fat rat or 22 AR( basically a neck down 6.5 Grendel).

Gas gun?

Ya, the 90's aren't too impressive. Glad you got good results with some lighter weight reloads though.

I really want to like the caliber but have a feeling I'm going to have to reload for it if I'm going to be able to like it.
 
Gas gun?

Ya, the 90's aren't too impressive. Glad you got good results with some lighter weight reloads though.

I really want to like the caliber but have a feeling I'm going to have to reload for it if I'm going to be able to like it.

Yes gas gun. Honestly a 1-6.5 would be the key and revised ammo from them.

It's fun to shoot but I got it to not reload initially. I am sure. Federal will step up with the redesing but how long until it hit us up here? A year?

If I wanted to shoot 60gr vmax I'd run my 223..

Now since I need to reload I've settled on the 224 AR. Better brass and a great pedigree.
 
I have shot some really good groups with mine using Federal 90 but many more ####ty ones
I think the issue is the ammo. Once I shoot enough brass I will work up some loads and expect performance to increase. Have a bunch of 90g smk and 80g Berger's.
 
I have shot some really good groups with mine using Federal 90 but many more ####ty ones
I think the issue is the ammo. Once I shoot enough brass I will work up some loads and expect performance to increase. Have a bunch of 90g smk and 80g Berger's.

You'll get good performance. Just don't think about your brass.
 
Why would anyone want a bolt gun in 224 Valkyrie when a fast twist 22-250 would be a better choice? I just had a 22-250 AI built with 1:7.5 twist. Much more versatile.
 
Why would anyone want a bolt gun in 224 Valkyrie when a fast twist 22-250 would be a better choice? I just had a 22-250 AI built with 1:7.5 twist. Much more versatile.


simple

half the wind drift....
supersonic past 1300...
 
simple

half the wind drift....
supersonic past 1300...

I'm not trying to be "that guy" but I think you missed Tazzy's point.

The SAME results can be achieved by simply re barreling a regular old 22-250 with a fast twist barrel. Common rifle, common parts, common reloading components. Nothing special about it and it will do the same thing.

Anyways the simple solution if you're bent on building a bolt gun in .224 Valkyrie would be to find a Remington 700p LTR in 6.8 spc and get it rebarreled. They are out there if you look hard enough.

If you're looking for a NICE chassis rifle I think the Masterpiece Arms MPA 224BA would be worth looking into.
 
I'm not trying to be "that guy" but I think you missed Tazzy's point.

The SAME results can be achieved by simply re barreling a regular old 22-250 with a fast twist barrel. Common rifle, common parts, common reloading components. Nothing special about it and it will do the same thing.

Anyways the simple solution if you're bent on building a bolt gun in .224 Valkyrie would be to find a Remington 700p LTR in 6.8 spc and get it rebarreled. They are out there if you look hard enough.

If you're looking for a NICE chassis rifle I think the Masterpiece Arms MPA 224BA would be worth looking into.


I still dont get why people have to get off topic....

who sells the ammo and rifles ?
 
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