lubing gaz check bullet when you don't put them on and not applying lube to the shank

Took me a couple of tries to figure out what you meant in the title. I see what you are up to. Good idea. :)
 
I can see what you're talking about but I have sized and lubed lots of gas check bullets that don't have gas checks. I just used a hard lube in a heated Lyman luber/sizer. When the lube hardens it sticks to the bullet pretty good. Might smoke a little more but nothing of note. Your idea might be useful if using soft lube that can get pretty messy.
 
ted_dent said:
I can see what you're talking about but I have sized and lubed lots of gas check bullets that don't have gas checks. I just used a hard lube in a heated Lyman luber/sizer. When the lube hardens it sticks to the bullet pretty good. Might smoke a little more but nothing of note. Your idea might be useful if using soft lube that can get pretty messy.
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I did that for a while but when doing plinking loads on a progressive and you seat the bullet in a case that was flared with a M die it scrape some lube sometime even if its hard so this way its clean and you save the time cleaning the smeared cases......but if you do precision cases I see your point.....
 
canuck4570 said:
I did that for a while but when doing plinking loads on a progressive and you seat the bullet in a case that was flared with a M die it scrape some lube sometime even if its hard so this way its clean and you save the time cleaning the smeared cases......but if you do precision cases I see your point.....
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I have only done it with handgun bullets (44 magnum) and I put a decent flare on the case mouth (more than an M die would). I also use a Hornady seater die with the floating seater sleeve that aligns the bullets with the case mouth and keeps it from shaving lube from the base. I can't recall ever having to clean lube off a case. However, a standard seater and lack of attention when placing the bullet on the case mouth could definitely lead to a crooked seated bullet and some lube being smeared on the case.
 
kjohn said:
Yep, a whole 1/2 cent per round at today's prices.
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Not sure how well you do math but the Hornady gas checks I use currently run around $68/1000 without shipping (6.8 cents each +). I'm sure rich guys like you don't mind p!ssing away 7 cents a round on something that does absolutely nothing to improve accuracy or performance so knock yourself out. I'll spend the money on something more useful.
 
ted_dent said:
Not sure how well you do math but the Hornady gas checks I use currently run around $68/1000 without shipping (6.8 cents each +). I'm sure rich guys like you don't mind p!ssing away 7 cents a round on something that does absolutely nothing to improve accuracy or performance so knock yourself out. I'll spend the money on something more useful.
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I make my own...so if i scrounge material they are free.
 
ted_dent said:
Not sure how well you do math but the Hornady gas checks I use currently run around $68/1000 without shipping (6.8 cents each +). I'm sure rich guys like you don't mind p!ssing away 7 cents a round on something that does absolutely nothing to improve accuracy or performance so knock yourself out. I'll spend the money on something more useful.
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My apologies. I made a mistake. My math is bad. My apologies. :runaway: So sorry. I recently bought three boxes of 1000 ea. of Hornady 8mm checks for $50 each. I made a mistake. My apologies. Good thing you put me in my place.
 
kjohn said:
My apologies. I made a mistake. My math is bad. My apologies. :runaway: So sorry. I recently bought three boxes of 1000 ea. of Hornady 8mm checks for $50 each. I made a mistake. My apologies. Good thing you put me in my place.
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Well as long as you're sorry and have admitted you were wrong all is good. Laugh2
 
canuck4570 said:
for plinking usually velocity hs below 1500 fps and you don't need GC and you can put the money on more powder and shoot more
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How much money do you save by not applying lube to the shank? (Just teasing.) I also shoot Gc bullets without a Gc ...but I lube the shanks. In fact, I shoot my plinkers as cast ( not sized).
 
Dragon lube sells .458 gas check $ 67.00 put shipping taxes and it come around $85
now each time I go and shoot I do on the bench shooting and plinking
easily I shoot 100 to 200 round a day
so in my summer I usually shoot up to 2000 round so that would be 170 dollars
now that is almost 3 pound of powder and in my 4570 at 15 gr. of powder a shot that is a lot
to be more precise that is 933 shot free......
if you shoot jus a little a year may be no fuss.....
what do you think
 
canuck4570 said:
Dragon lube sells .458 gas check $ 67.00 put shipping taxes and it come around $85
now each time I go and shoot I do on the bench shooting and plinking
easily I shoot 100 to 200 round a day
so in my summer I usually shoot up to 2000 round so that would be 170 dollars
now that is almost 3 pound of powder and in my 4570 at 15 gr. of powder a shot that is a lot
to be more precise that is 933 shot free......
if you shoot jus a little a year may be no fuss.....
what do you think
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I get the math about saving money by not using a gas check... I do the same thing for the same reason. My little tease was simply about applying lube to the top groove but not the part where the gas check goes.

I presume you shoot at Ruisseau Noire?
 
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