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MACH said:
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Thought I’d post how my build is coming along. Very, very happy so far. When I first put the green A1 furniture and the carbine stock, I immediately wanted to put my “backup” A2 black furniture back on, but alas, the A1 has grown on me and I think she’ll stay this way. The Forward Assist uppers can’t get here fast enough so I can finish her. Still haven’t decided what to do with the SS upper I have on order... starting to think .300 blk.
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Looks like you could use a A1 detachable carry handle and A1 buttstock.

I had the same idea for a ‘retro rifle’, but I’m using a 70’s Colt manufactured M16a1 parts kit. It was on my Maccabee before hunting season for a bit. I’m not sure if I should put it on a slick side upper with a chrome BCG, or wait for a forward assist upper and use my tear drop forward assist. Keeping it as it left th factory.
 
ssapach said:
Sweet!

Ok, now I'm going to be that guy and ask what the chances are of ever seeing an upper with carry handle for the MS? I mean a one piece, integrated carry handle, with forward assist of course.
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An upper with an integrated carry handle? So far below zero we lost sight of it. To invest the time to program after we make fixtures would be cost prohibitive for the dozen or so of these that would ever sell.
There is already some whining about the cost of our uppers and lowers, I can only imagine how that would be amplified with such a complicated part to machine.
Even the BIG manufacturers that turn out millions of uppers backed away from these years ago partly due to costs.
 
jiffx2781 said:
I'm a little confused as to why people would be whining about the cost of the MS receiver sets.
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People that whine wouldnt buy one regarless of price. Of all the forums I frequent, Canadian gun owners are the biggest bunch of whiners Ive ever seen. And they seem to want everything for free. Or like to bolt on 1000s of dollars of parts on cheap guns...lol
 
I wonder if canadians also slag gun shops/makers more than any other gun-person? Lots of people on cgn durr love ripping into companies, I especially find it funny when one tears a business a new one and still buys a product lol.
 
docscoutjr said:
Ohhhhh $150 for assembly? This negates the great nut torquing tool debate. Will keep this in mind. So sometime in July I can drop off my box 'o parts?
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Absolutely.

Keegs239 said:
Not time critical that's for sure, I'm in the second production run of MS, just want to get the rest of my parts ordered. 4-6 weeks works but hmm I might get you guys to bring in a few more things for me. Basically anything from Brownells or what? I'm wanting the Brigand Blade 15" handguard and noticed ctcs no longer carries the 15" only 12". Think you guys can bring in one of those too and if so what price. I'm for sure in for a lightweight TiN bolt though.
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Best bet is to email us, as when things at the shop get busy, the first thing that gets dropped and ignored is instagram/facebook. The second is gunnutz. And third is lunch.
 
jiffx2781 said:
I'm a little confused as to why people would be whining about the cost of the MS receiver sets.

When you consider the price range of other NR firearms you can build a MS anywhere within that price range.

The possibilities of what you can do with this are endless. You're not limited to making due with one of the other proprietary platforms.

When you factor in the final build cost being within the price range of other options combined with the ability to customize the build to your EXACT needs I see no logic in anyone's argument that these receivers may be overpriced.

And if anyone is comparing apples to apples they would see that there are other high quality billet ar15 receiver sets made by much larger US companies that sell up to within a hundred bucks of the MS.

IMHO the pricing is bang on where it should be.
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There are many in the Canadian firearms community that refuse to face the reality that this is Canada NOT the USA. Most also fail to take into account the exchange rate and costs of getting gun stuff out of the USA. Add that to their complete failure to understand that there are many reasons products made in canada cost more than similar products do in the USA and you have whiners with no clue. Wages, taxes, cost to operate a business and the list goes on.
There are a few twits that have commented on facebook that all of the Canadian made NRs are grossly overpriced, the unfortunate thing there is that they have absolutely no clue but do in all likelyhood own some cheap crap guns, which truly makes them dangerous. Check the ATRS facebook page.

What I find funny is that they same morons have no problem paying $300.00 for an SKS that when new, was made for under $20.00, by communist countries where the workers did not really get paid fairly for their work, so the root cost was strictly the materials. Makes me wonder what their song would be if Canada worked under the same premise as 1950s USSR did?
 
I'm not a rich person at all and i don't find it overpriced whatsoever.. you could call it an expensive product, and it is for a reason. But I like it expensive. Pay to play. Less cheap gun goofs running around with %99 ARs In the bush that way too.
 
play.soccer said:
I wonder if canadians also slag gun shops/makers more than any other gun-person? Lots of people on cgn durr love ripping into companies, I especially find it funny when one tears a business a new one and still buys a product lol.
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Clearly you haven’t made your way to the American gun sites. Lol

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rimlick said:
I'm not a rich person at all and i don't find it overpriced whatsoever.. you could call it an expensive product, and it is for a reason. But I like it expensive. Pay to play. Less cheap gun goofs running around with %99 ARs In the bush that way too.
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I'm totally gonna be running around the Bush with mine.
But it's okay dont worry, no one will be able to see me because camo. Also Ninja.
 
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The sub $500 USD AR-15's are such bad quality I find when I was down in the states checking out a few gun shops for fun. They are even worse than Norincos.

I prefer high entry point quality products and this doesn't only apply to firearms. I think you'll appreciate it more and treat it better than a cheap AR that you're probably gonna trash. You also get the benefit of strong resale value. Look at the MH's and MV's, all command high resale value. You can literally buy one, use for few years and sell back for not much less than what you pay for.
 
Bomiheko said:
Look at the MH's and MV's, all command high resale value. You can literally buy one, use for few years and sell back for not much less than what you pay for.
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I mean, I always see a few MHs for sale for huge prices, because the person who ordered them went all out on parts, but, I dont know if I've seen them sell. Ive seen a couple MH's on the EE being bumped for months. People like cheap guns because its what they can afford. Dont spend big money on a gun ever thinking youll recuperate your cash for it used, IMO
 
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HotSoup said:
I mean, I always see a few MHs for sale for huge prices, because the person who ordered them went all out on parts, but, I dont know if I've seen them sell. Ive seen a couple MH's on the EE being bumped for months. People like cheap guns because its what they can afford. Dont spend big money on a gun ever thinking youll recuperate your cash ,IMO
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I had a top end MV build, and i took a very big hit on it, on the EE:)
 
Brianma65 said:
I had a top end MV build, and i took a very big hit on it, on the EE:)
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Which is why when i heard the MS was coming along i chucked my MV, also i chucked my BCL102 when i heard about the Stag10.

I personally love ATRS and what they are doing, i'm sure if they had a market in the US they would be cheaper.
 
AMET said:
Which is why when i heard the MS was coming along i chucked my MV, also i chucked my BCL102 when i heard about the Stag10.

I personally love ATRS and what they are doing, i'm sure if they had a market in the US they would be cheaper.
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No doubt.
I wasn’t complaining about the price at all.
Just adding a comment to the other posters comment, regarding the MV/MH holding its value.

I think the MS will hold its value more so than the MV.
At least until something similar comes along.
 
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