Dime
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Wk180-c feedback
- Thread starter Mr Wolverine
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MechanicalSparky25
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I wouldnt shoot it if the charging handle is missing the magnet that hold its in.
ljones
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Didn't Wolverine indicate they made a change and eliminated the magnet after a number were produced. It may not need a magnet now. I do remember them mentioning it. Not going to go back through all the different threads to look for that info though. Figured Wolverine would be chiming in by now on this issue...
Mr Wolverine
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We are now back at work after the holidays.
I would like to confirm that all WK180-C charging handles are fitted with a magnet that is staked in two spots. If your charging handle is missing the magnet, is loose or not staked please contact Service@Kodiakdefence.com so they can remedy the issue.
If I remember correctly the only change the was made in regard to the magnet was that the first ones were a little larger and a press fit in a blind hole. This was quickly changed to a smaller diameter magnet which was staked in place. The hole is no longer a blind hole to facilitate easier replacement of the magnet if required.
These rifles are safe to shoot with no magnet, it is simply installed to reduce wear on the receiver rail.
Cameron SS
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Hi Wolverine,
As you are nearing in on the first 1000 rifles produced, I was thinking it might be nice if you were willing to provide a consolidated list of design updates/improvements that have been included thus far. I Was late the the pre-order but was satisfied knowing that many bi or small design or manufacturing issues would be worked out long before I got mine.
As many of us have been waiting with baited breath, and have been reading many reviews, good and bad, I think it would be reassuring to know what modifications have been made on the production line to resolve many of these issues so the guns going into the box today are that much better. Many of these improvements have already been disclosed, so more looking for a single post with a consolidated list.
IE, guns today are chambered for 5.56,
Small magnets that are staked,
I believe you said something about the cocking handles having a different retention washer with tighter tolerance?
I'm sure there might have been a few others.
I am still really looking forward to receiving my two 180s I ordered. Keep up the great work.
ljones
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Thanks for replying. I knew there was a change just couldn't remember what exactly it was. Thanks for confirming.
Jäger1
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- Thornbury, Ontario
I had mine out for the first time this morning. Received mid-December. Serial CA-0726-18
The gun itself:
I am a big fan of the grey finish and find the whole gun cosmetically well done. The machining is free of tool marks and the fit between the upper and lower is good. There is some wobble but this is approximate to any AR I've ever owned.
Accuracy:
No real testing was done in this regard - I was shooting using Magpul Pro backups at 25 resting on the magazine. I'll throw a bipod on at a later time and do some serious accuracy evaluation.
Reliability:
Mechanical reliability was flawless over approx 200 rounds fired. Ejection was to 3 o'clock and the rounds didn't fly an extraordinary distance despite some reporting here that the gun is overgassed. I did not get that impression at all. The bolt locked back 100% of the time. I was using gen 2 30 rd PMAGS, gen 3 20 rd PMAGS and the Hera Arms magazines included with the rifle. Ammunition was my own reloads - 20.7gr of H322 with a 55gr bullet and an aggressive collet crimp. All primer strikes observed were firm hits. No pierced primers were observed. Brass marks as expected are present behind the ejection port.
The gun was lubricated with a white lithium grease in the channels the bolt carrier rides in and along the surfaces that contact the charging handle as it reciprocates.
Gripes:
The charging handle retention system does not inspire confidence. The charging handle can be pulled away from the bolt carrier with ease. I am of course concerned about the upper getting battered by a loose component, but I have observed no concerning wear in the upper after the first 200 rounds. I will monitor it closely, but will cross my fingers that an aftermarket solution will appear for those who want more positive retention.
Summary of feedback to Wolverine & Kodiak:
Well done overall. There are of course many things that I'd change here and there but not at this price point. The charging handle is all that I really don't like.
The gun itself:
I am a big fan of the grey finish and find the whole gun cosmetically well done. The machining is free of tool marks and the fit between the upper and lower is good. There is some wobble but this is approximate to any AR I've ever owned.
Accuracy:
No real testing was done in this regard - I was shooting using Magpul Pro backups at 25 resting on the magazine. I'll throw a bipod on at a later time and do some serious accuracy evaluation.
Reliability:
Mechanical reliability was flawless over approx 200 rounds fired. Ejection was to 3 o'clock and the rounds didn't fly an extraordinary distance despite some reporting here that the gun is overgassed. I did not get that impression at all. The bolt locked back 100% of the time. I was using gen 2 30 rd PMAGS, gen 3 20 rd PMAGS and the Hera Arms magazines included with the rifle. Ammunition was my own reloads - 20.7gr of H322 with a 55gr bullet and an aggressive collet crimp. All primer strikes observed were firm hits. No pierced primers were observed. Brass marks as expected are present behind the ejection port.
The gun was lubricated with a white lithium grease in the channels the bolt carrier rides in and along the surfaces that contact the charging handle as it reciprocates.
Gripes:
The charging handle retention system does not inspire confidence. The charging handle can be pulled away from the bolt carrier with ease. I am of course concerned about the upper getting battered by a loose component, but I have observed no concerning wear in the upper after the first 200 rounds. I will monitor it closely, but will cross my fingers that an aftermarket solution will appear for those who want more positive retention.
Summary of feedback to Wolverine & Kodiak:
Well done overall. There are of course many things that I'd change here and there but not at this price point. The charging handle is all that I really don't like.
I had mine out yesterday for the second time. I've only shot roughly 60 rounds through it so far. Serial CA-0089-18
Feels solid, little wobble, I love the simplicity of it.
I tested x3 different types of metal LAR mags and they all cycled flawlessly with FMJ ammo. Pmags cycled fine too.
Cycled great with PMC FMJ, Rem FMJ and green tip FMJ
It didn't like Hollow point rounds, they would get jammed up going into the barrel. Anyone else having problems with HP ammo?
Feels solid, little wobble, I love the simplicity of it.
I tested x3 different types of metal LAR mags and they all cycled flawlessly with FMJ ammo. Pmags cycled fine too.
Cycled great with PMC FMJ, Rem FMJ and green tip FMJ
It didn't like Hollow point rounds, they would get jammed up going into the barrel. Anyone else having problems with HP ammo?
I too second this notion. Would be greatly appreciated.
Baitcaster
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You can eliminate the wobble with a 1/2" ID 5/8" OD 1/16" thick rubber washer around the lug on the bottom of the upper receiver. Works like a charm.
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Bubba Yugga
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The o-ring worked well for me too!
With the Geissele "Good-Two-Sides" trigger, she performs like a dream. The original Wylde chamber eats Independence 5.56 without hiccup. MFT, CPD, Hera all good.
All I did was loosen the handguard screws and retighten while holding off, and I can now slide paper around the gas block.
frogger
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What make of tactical rings are people putting on the WK to mount optics with 1” tubes. The Nikon AR tactical will not fit on the receiver rail.
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- Cloverdale.B.C.
Yes they do.
Take the pin and nut out and run it from the back of the rail to where you want then put pin and nut back in place, remember to push forward before you tighten to rail.
I just put a set of these on mine last Sunday, they worked out great with my 1 x 8 Strike Eagle.
frogger
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- NW Ontario
Tried this. The mount would slide from the front of the rail back to where it came into contact with the receiver rail and would stop. It would not slide from the back at all.
hmr-hound
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- Ottawa Valley Ontario
Every fastener on my WK180 was loose. The handguard, safety switch, gas block set screw, piston retaining screw. The slop between receivers is huge, I fixed it with some really thin rubber in the lug recess. So far I've only fired 50 rounds, the accuracy is impressive compared to the Mini 14. I'll be hunting down a brass deflector ASAP
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- Cloverdale.B.C.
Hmm, Mine went on from the back with some force. It was tight but they did slide on. Mine are 30mm rings but I can't see that being the problem.
Push harder
Pootle
Member
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- Burnaby BC
This is my first firearm of this type and my first firearm with a rail - I purchased the same Magpul sights and found the rail really tight - I had to tap them on with a rubber mallet. Is this normal?
David
Paul_T
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I have Magpul BUIS on my DD AR and had to tap them on as well. Once they are on and off a couple of times the polymer wears enough that they are easier to move.
Jäger1
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- Thornbury, Ontario
The magpul pro sights do not slide on by the ends of the rail, they install overtop with a two-piece mounting system. You must be referring to the magpul mbus sights. I have used them in the past and found they slide on easily on some rails and take some persuasion on others.
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