The TAVOR

yeah i want the mars sight too, but i'm hoping that we can get one without the m21, for the claimed $700 dollars, i'd say if i can get a 400 dollar resale value then it's good, if they can take 600 dollar off my order and throw in an adapter, or the whol $700 dollars, then i will most likely order it... (and then buy a eotech 5552 or 553 if i can find one)
 
The rifle is a great shooter!!! For daily range or target use the M-21 is more than efficient. Overall the dot is clear and we were all surprised with the accuracy with its once dialed in.

I wouldn't put it down too quick. With regards to MARS ,, Id prefer an Eotech, but lets just get then in country first.

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for 3K they're worth it (Even with the M-21) IMHO. The sights would be accurate out of the box with the Meprolight IMHO. the fact that they dont need batteries is also a huge plus.
 
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Well to me the M-21 is unresaleble, if there is a 50+ m21 coming into the country and if say 10 guys are selling them at once, then the price is going to plummet and I'd still have to spend another 600+ for an Eotech, if they drop the m21 and drop say 600 from the tavor, that would make it reasonable, and at this time, to me, it seems IWI is trying to get rid of excess m21 stock, and that they are bundling it with a very superior rifle, to clean them out at a high price.

And from the photo above, it seems that the Eotech is mountable on the tavor, at least in terms of dimension with the m21.
 
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Nice review, thanks! What is the plastic squigly thing and round plastic disk like thing behind the BUIS? Have you tried firing with the BUIS? If so how was it? Every tid bit I read about this rifle makes me want to have one. It is the most interesting non-restricted semi auto I have seen in a long time.
 
You said that the Tavor's accuracy was better than expected but did not mention any group sizes or post any target pictures, what size of groups were you getting?
 
Post pictures of targets? this aint Guns & Ammo :rolleyes:

My overall impression of the accuracy was just that .. my impression, and compared to the shorty AR15 (with HK style diopter sights) it produced tighter groups at 25-50 and 150yds. Could be the gun? could be shooter :p

The BUIS is a flip (from the side for the rear) and a fwd flip on thefront. They lined up well with the M-21.

Im sure that the M-21 sights will be more than accurate for most target shooting applications. I am a fan of the ACOG, Eotech and Aimponts as well, but I was pleasantly surprised by the overall sight picture. I recently sold my Trijicon Reflex sight as there are better options out there.

I for one am not complaining... I just want one.
 
Well m21's brightness degrade over time though..., but canam did say they will replace it for free if needed, I have no problem with the performance, it's the performance/price ratio, for $700 dollars the m21 is too expensive to me...
 
TheHolyLancer said:
Well m21's brightness degrade over time though
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15 years is the expected lifespan according to CanAm. That's a long time for any optic. I would think that an Eotech / Aimpoint would be experiencing some degradation by then as well (fogging etc) if they see any real amount of use. And fifteen years from now the next great sighting system will be out for you to upgrade to anyway. So not a concern to me.
 
well the thing is, it doesn't go like 15 years of same brightness then goes completely dark, it's a process where the brightness gets darker every day, and 15 years claimed may be say 5 years for someone else...
 
TheHolyLancer said:
well the thing is, it doesn't go like 15 years of same brightness then goes completely dark, it's a process where the brightness gets darker every day, and 15 years claimed may be say 5 years for someone else...
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No, the half life of the tritium is known. It is about 10 years, so in 10 years time the reticle will be 1/2 as bright.
 
redleg said:
No, the half life of the tritium is known. It is about 10 years, so in 10 years time the reticle will be 1/2 as bright.
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He's not completely wrong. You're making it sound like magically one day you pick the gun up and the sight is half as bright. In reality, it does begin degrading immediately. The halflife of tritium is a bit over 12 years. Therefore, in 12 years only half the amount of tritium which was originally in the sight will be left. However, in 6 years only 75% of the original amount of tritum will be left (ie you lost a quarter of your brightness in 6 years), break it down further and in 3 years you'll lose over 10% of your brightness... etc etc....
 
Shazam said:
Post pictures of targets? this aint Guns & Ammo :rolleyes:

My overall impression of the accuracy was just that .. my impression, and compared to the shorty AR15 (with HK style diopter sights) it produced tighter groups at 25-50 and 150yds. Could be the gun? could be shooter :p
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O.K. so how was accuracy? I can understand just banging off rounds at 25 - 50 yards, but how did it hold up at 150? Did you or do you shoot for 'groups' or are you spreadin' the love all over the target?
What ammo were you firing?
Thanks!:wave:
 
Ok, I think this M21 meprolight dead horse is beaten to triple death already....appparently, you have never used a tritum powered optics before- it is not going to die one day you wake up 5 years from now!! some of the things you worry about is totally unfound. As long as you don't sit in a hole and shoot at something under the sunlight, or try to use it in conjunction with a tactical flashnight, you will be doing just fine with the M21. Like anything, every 7-10 years you are supposed to replace the tritium lamp.
 
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