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Can't say I'd be 2 interested in a titanium version, what is the point? Now give the current design a diet and I'd be in for a couple more sets.
Looking forward to scanning my receivers once I get them and playing with a few designs in CAD.
 
I'm sweating just thinking about this titanium receiver now.

But, would the upper be FA or SS?

Whatever it is, put me down for one set. I'll sell something else to fund this.

Also, while we're getting ridiculous, can we get steel receivers so we can get some puuuurrrrdy case hardening done?
 
OMG, a case hardened upper, that would be amazing!
Think there was someone around that did bone hardening, super pretty.



ssapach said:
I'm sweating just thinking about this titanium receiver now.

But, would the upper be FA or SS?

Whatever it is, put me down for one set. I'll sell something else to fund this.

Also, while we're getting ridiculous, can we get steel receivers so we can get some puuuurrrrdy case hardening done?
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The Titanium idea really was intended as a joke. As cool as it would be ( especially after heat colouring) , it really doesn’t have a practical purpose.
 
greg olmstead said:
I'd splurge on a titanium set just for the durability of it. I've read of guys wearing out uppers where the cam pin rides. No idea how many rounds that would take though.
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You don't count that in rounds, you count that in barrels.





Also, titanium is not magic, like aluminium it's properties are highly dependent on the alloy and heat threatment. One should not discount aluminium as somehow being an "inferior" material, 7075-T651 aluminium is VERY strong (stronger than T6 heat treat in fact). Rock climbing carabiners are made from 7075-T6, some are forged, some are not. I own and have much personal experience with all kinds of carabiners, both big and tiny ones (they are all rated to 22kN minimum), dangling in the air from scary heights on a rope with nothing else to keep me from death in case (when) I fall than a tiny, stupidly weightless carabiner, I'll tell you... it puts things in perspective. Gets one to respect the material.
 
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purplezuk said:
Is it .308 or .311?
I’ve never before seen a 5R .311 barrel.....
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All depends on the button ibi uses. Buttons can be made to anything you can think of. I've noticed that button rifled barrel makers offer a lot more choices than cut rifled barrel makers. I think that's due to the complexity of set up and execution for some things vs just pulling a button through.
 
Dietz said:
You don't count that in rounds, you count that in barrels.
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I like this. Barrel count. Not round count

No doubt 7075-t6 is a great material and in no way am I discounting it. It's an amazing alloy that serves a great purpose. In my opinion it's the best material for light weight high strength uses. I'm not sold on titatanium. It's hard to work with and offers no weight savings as its heavier than 7075-T6. It would just be cool to have a titanium reciever set due to the wow factor. It has its place as a lighter alternative to steel without compromising strength. I'd own a titanium 700 action in a heartbeat if I could find one that was a bare action and I was a sheep hunter.

The only way titanium offers any weight savings is when it has less material for the same amount of strength and rigidity. Without changes to the ms reciever cad program there is no weight savings. It actually makes them heavier. If ATRS offered a 440 stainless reciever set I'd buy it over a titanium set any day. I dont like light rifles. When I set it down I want it to stay put when I squeeze off a round. It's all a personal preference and maybe a lack of use of lighter rifles. I know I dont like shooting my hunting rifles nearly as much as my target ones. I'd rather put 500 rounds down range than 50 and have my shoulder ache for 2 days.
 
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