Hi all! I had a repeat offender drop off an WWI Canadian infantry rifle this morning ~ a 1910 Ross Rifle
It's not quite a sporter bring back, but close a replacement stock needing fitting (the original was spliced and broken) - some replacement/repro bands to fit, not more than a few hours work. The replacement stock was done by someone with a duplicator & is typical of what you would get from a duplicator with respect to fit and finish.
Everything went quite smoothly until I finally got the action and trigger guard fitted - now, full disclosure, I have never seen, yet, worked on a Ross - so I wanted to get some input here before I did any more work on it. So:
it goes together fine, both the front and rear action bolts snug right up to the ends of their threads in the new stock - there is no danger of over tightening or crushing the stock. There was a bit of an alignment issue from the duplicator with the trigger guard inlet and action inlet, so I am going to have to bed it (pillar bed it I think) anyway BUT what I noticed, was that of the rear action bolt was tightened all the way you could not work the bolt, it was like the action was bending and binding the bolt in those 2 grooves it rides on. If I loosen the rear bolt one full revolution (not 1/2, not 3/4 on FULL revolution) it will be fine, you can work the bolt/action.
I figured it was bending and binding, so I loosened the front action bolt - no dice, bolt would not move, removed front action bolt completely - bolt would still not move. (unless I loosened the rear action bolt)
I can get the bolt into the action most of the way without any undue force - it's about the last 1-2 inches or so, just when the lugs are entering the back of the chamber it binds up and obviously won't go any further.
I thought maybe it was hanging up on the back of the magazine - removed the magazine .... same problem.
I slathered both the bolt and action in prussian blue looking for the wearing surfaces ... quite literally nothing! just a bit where you would be expecting it anyway . (surprisingly little contact on the locking lugs!!!)
Lastly it binding about an inch or so from the end of the bolts travel I thought there must be some kind of sear engagement issue or something blocking the trigger? - this now seems most likely, but there is tons of room in there and no contact or evidence of contact anywhere between that trigger (group) and the stock. (I should have seen some transfer agent)
So guys, literally; "WTF"??? has anyone had an issue like this?
Pillar bedding it will let me set how tight the action bolts can be set, but I really want to know whats going on first!
thoughts? experiences?
Everything went quite smoothly until I finally got the action and trigger guard fitted - now, full disclosure, I have never seen, yet, worked on a Ross - so I wanted to get some input here before I did any more work on it. So:
it goes together fine, both the front and rear action bolts snug right up to the ends of their threads in the new stock - there is no danger of over tightening or crushing the stock. There was a bit of an alignment issue from the duplicator with the trigger guard inlet and action inlet, so I am going to have to bed it (pillar bed it I think) anyway BUT what I noticed, was that of the rear action bolt was tightened all the way you could not work the bolt, it was like the action was bending and binding the bolt in those 2 grooves it rides on. If I loosen the rear bolt one full revolution (not 1/2, not 3/4 on FULL revolution) it will be fine, you can work the bolt/action.
I figured it was bending and binding, so I loosened the front action bolt - no dice, bolt would not move, removed front action bolt completely - bolt would still not move. (unless I loosened the rear action bolt)
I can get the bolt into the action most of the way without any undue force - it's about the last 1-2 inches or so, just when the lugs are entering the back of the chamber it binds up and obviously won't go any further.
I thought maybe it was hanging up on the back of the magazine - removed the magazine .... same problem.
I slathered both the bolt and action in prussian blue looking for the wearing surfaces ... quite literally nothing! just a bit where you would be expecting it anyway . (surprisingly little contact on the locking lugs!!!)
Lastly it binding about an inch or so from the end of the bolts travel I thought there must be some kind of sear engagement issue or something blocking the trigger? - this now seems most likely, but there is tons of room in there and no contact or evidence of contact anywhere between that trigger (group) and the stock. (I should have seen some transfer agent)
So guys, literally; "WTF"??? has anyone had an issue like this?
Pillar bedding it will let me set how tight the action bolts can be set, but I really want to know whats going on first!
thoughts? experiences?