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Russian SKS Importation Questions.
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Is this is a #### measuring contest? Or do you guys actually care about factual research?
I’m sorry but your basically saying “guilty, now prove yourself innocent.”
I will be more than happy to show you many examples of non refurb letter series in hardwood stocks, I’ll post a separate thread.
I’m sorry but your basically saying “guilty, now prove yourself innocent.”
I will be more than happy to show you many examples of non refurb letter series in hardwood stocks, I’ll post a separate thread.
Sounds good.
Please include photos of:
-All serial stamps and EP's on the gas tube and piston shaft.
-HD, in focus, closeups of the entire legnth of rifle both the stocks and the barreled-action out of the stock.
-Muzzle too
No need to post the 1956 examples. We know for a fact that 1955-56 transition from hardwood to laminate so 1956's have a solid, quantitative evidence of original issued hardwood stocks.
Ya what he said! And be sure to put some on the EE too!
Ooh, I like this one.
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- pallisers triangle
Your telling me you’ve never seen a non refurb 1957 or 58 in a hardwood stock?
I own a few, they certainly are here.
Doesn’t that by virtue indicate Canada has more of a Soviet SKS variety pool than the USA? If we have stuff you don’t?
Or are you just going to state any hardwood you see it a refurb... just like Horilkas clearly Non refurb one.
Ok - but it doesn’t look faked nor does it improve the value.
It could have been from old stocks and I’d wager that’s what happend... the letter series appear to use some older parts as well, I’d suspect Tula may have restarted production for whatever reason.
I’ve heard some theories but nothing is concrete.
PinkyPlinker
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Nice that these guys demand proof, yet offer none of their own.
Wait Paul, I haven't finished humping them. Ask for another couple of days, takes longer than I expected....
They don't need any, they are semi-gods of SKS collectors, shining their diving knowledge on humble Canadian peons.
Didn't anyone ever teach you that it is factually and logically impossible to Prove NON-existence. I can't prove something doesn't exist.
If you are saying that they DO exist, well, that's what we call a positive statement.
Positive statements can be proven (or disproved). So, If they exist.....please show them.
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BTW, I don't remember who, but someone was asking for numbers on imports, here are 2010, 2011, 2012.... I have them for all recent years....
Oops, it seems I was a bit drunk when I was putting these tables together... Sorry, I'll do my best next time.
Oops, it seems I was a bit drunk when I was putting these tables together... Sorry, I'll do my best next time.
Not that doesn't have at least one obvious indication of refurbishment.
It's impossible for me to disprove the negative. However, it would be easy for you to prove the positive by posting your detailed, photographic evidence.
Simple answer: No, it does not.
see above. Horilka's rifle has at least one bright and shiny and HUGE red flag: the Star on the stock. If you are uncertain of the status of your gun, and reluctant to perhaps find out that it may not be what you think, then, by all means, don't post a single photograph.
If, however, you want to take a crack at proving me wrong, I wholeheartedly encourage you to do so.
I've got my crow eating bib and place mat on deck in the event that my dinner plans suddenly change.
Could it be that the surplus/ left over stocks that 56-58 sks are made from, came from the Tula plant and already had the stamp on the stock?
When the U.S, stopped importing sks, we got lucky as the importers lost a huge market! The sks were basically dumped at a very low price and there were a crap ton of beautiful sks available at discount prices, only the last year and a half did we get the lower end of the quality barrel! I also believe that was more due to the importer( north Sylva) than the supply! I think there are still lots of great quality sks in Europe. North Sylva were also the ones who, when pinning ( or contracted someone to pin) to 5 rounds, did not tell them to rematch the mags, which for the collector types, devalues the rifle, I have a beautiful 53 Izzy that I believe is issued but not refurbed, blueing worn a bit around the muzzle and all the cartouche are there, would be perfect in my estimation except the mag doesn't match due to cheap ass importer! Good thing is that due to the dumping in our small market, we got Russian sks in very nice shape from around $150.-$250 until about 2 years ago and new/unissued Chinese for $150. All day long, till about 2.5-3 years ago. Then it dried up, lately we get the ratty refurb Chinese pieces and pay low $190. To $289 when they first showed up! I am still holding out for more nice Chinese copies coming in, if they don't nuke us first because of Trudeau's BS!
Lee Enfield
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You guys are hopefully aware that military (surplus police firearms were an exception) firearms were banned from import to the US between GCA'68 and GOPA '86?
International Firearms used Montreal as a warehouse/ shipping/ distribution site.
International Firearms operated in the US as Century International.
Between 1968 and 1986 the surplus firearms had to be sold somewhere, and it wasn't in the US.
The US didn't see a legal non-vietnam trophy bring back before may 1986.
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