Russian SKS Importation Questions.

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Boris Badinov said:
Didn't anyone ever teach you that it is factually and logically impossible to disprove a negative. I can't prove something doesn't exist.

If you are saying that they DO exist, well, that's what we call a positive statement.

Positive statements can be proven (or disproved). So, If they exist.....please show them.
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Wtf?

Your arguing against yourself... you said there aren’t any legitimate non refurb hardwood letter series guns...

Man, you are beating us down to your own level then trying to win through experience.
 
Talking to you guys just reminds me of this scene... there is zero logic and even though we’ve tried to play fair it’s just too stupid to keep up with...

 
Lee Enfield said:
You guys are hopefully aware that military (surplus police firearms were an exception) firearms were banned from import to the US between GCA'68 and GOPA '86?



Between 1968 and 1986 the surplus firearms had to be sold somewhere, and it wasn't in the US.

The US didn't see a legal non-vietnam trophy bring back before may 1986.
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Wrong. So, very, very wrong. This is not true.
This is a link to a US firearms advertisement dated....October, 1st 1984.

https://image.ibb.co/forGHf/SG-news-clayco.jpg

The importation restrictions contained in the GCA'68 had various firearm definition loopholes, and the NRA and the US importers found 'em and exploited the heck out of them for years.
 
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bobdbldr said:
...only the last year and a half did we get the lower end of the quality barrel! I also believe that was more due to the importer( north Sylva) than the supply!
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NS brought them from Russia (mags mismatched during pinning, export markings), other importers - from Ukraine (many different shipments).
Unlike some self-proclaimed expert from US think importers can't pick up creme de la creme. Rifles are released in batches and exporter can pick category but it has nothing to do with refurb or not refurb but rather with overall condition after so many years of storage. 1st category would have all kind of refurbs and factory original matching rifles and all those rifles will be ready to be used, 2nd - also could have factory originals and many time reworked rifles, just with some rust and mold, means they need some attention, and so on. 1st category imported from Russia could be worse then 1st category from Ukraine because historically might have had BBQ paint applied gods know when, but it still will be 1st category. Or it could be vice versa. Same crate of 2nd category could have top 5 rifles almost gone and 10 in pristine condition. Rifles were not stored and sold for collectors, it's just a surplus, things countries don't need. Now original exporter/importer then can sort the good but from what I can see it all goes indiscriminately to distributor (could be same entity as importer) down to the level of retailer.

Lee Enfield said:
Between 1968 and 1986 the surplus firearms had to be sold somewhere, and it wasn't in the US.
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To add more fun to these facts, all SVT-40s from recent import of these rifles that arrived to Canada from Ukraine via known BC company were sold to US registered company, and yet all of them were shipped to Canada. And that's true not just for SVTs. Let me tell that huge numbers are still bought every year by US companies and German companies but these items rarely go to these countries, many end up in Canada and sometime in other places. Business is international thingy.
 
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pcvando said:
Wtf?

Your arguing against yourself... you said there aren’t any legitimate non refurb hardwood letter series guns...

Man, you are beating us down to your own level then trying to win through experience.
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Oh, boy. I don't have the time or patience to run through an entire remedial course in logic 101 with you, pvcando.

So, here's the short bus explanation:

If I say to you, "Pcvando, there is no such thing as a flying hippopotamus," and your response to me is, "Prove it," I am powerless to provide you proof of a thing that does not exist, or for which I have yet seen no proof for its existence

On the other hand.

If you say to me "Hey, Boris, I have a flying hippopotamus living in my backyard", and my response to you is, "Prove it," all you have to do is show me the flying hippopotamus that lives in your back yard.


Now, replace "flying hippopotamus" with "all-matching/all-original/non-refurb 1957 & 1958 letter series rifles" and that is the big red dot on the map that says, " You are HERE."
 
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Boris Badinov said:
Oh, boy. I don't have the time or patience to run through an entire remedial course in logic 101 with you, pvcando.

So, here's the short bus explanation:

If I say to you, "Pcvando, there is no such thing as a flying hippopotamus," and your response to me is, "Prove it," I am powerless to provide you proof of a thing that does not exist, or for which I have yet seen no proof for its existence

On the other hand.

If you say to me "Hey, Boris, I have a flying hippopotamus living in my backyard", and my response to you is, "Prove it," all you have to do is show me the flying hippopotamus that lives in your back yard.


Now, replace "flying hippopotamus" with "all-matching/all-original/non-refurb 1957 & 1958 letter series rifles" and that is the big red dot on the map that says, " You are HERE."
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I already told you I will post a thread, but at this point I'm sure you will just say they are refurbs regardless haha Just like you said about Horilka's all matching non refurb.
 
pcvando said:
Wtf?

Your arguing against yourself... you said there aren’t any legitimate non refurb hardwood letter series guns...

Man, you are beating us down to your own level then trying to win through experience.
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My mistake. I meant that it is factually an logically impossible to Prove Non Existence and NOT Disprove a negative.

But my flying hippopotamus example explains my point.

Apparently, I need my own refresher course on terminologies.
 
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