Nobody taccing up Mossbergs?
- Thread starter Rayleigh_Scattering
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The 500 isn't the one to "tacticool" out - the 590 is. I have a 590A1 and I really like it, despite also having two 870 Police models with walnut.
Less parts available for the Mossberg, but they are still available, including sights, stocks, etc. I put a Magpul stock on mine (forend and butt stock) as soon as they came out - had to wait a little while after it was available for the 870.
The 590 seems set up well from the factory, especially the A1 model with the upgraded trigger guard and safety and thicker barrel (though I don't know why the barrel needs to be so thick, I do enjoy that it is!)
One demerit is I think the Mossberg is built to a lower standard than the 870. One example I have from my own gun is that the barrel detent and ball setup to fit under the magazine cap came loose out of the box and had to be peened over again. Not a huge deal but come on. It happened to my buddy's shotgun, too.
Less parts available for the Mossberg, but they are still available, including sights, stocks, etc. I put a Magpul stock on mine (forend and butt stock) as soon as they came out - had to wait a little while after it was available for the 870.
The 590 seems set up well from the factory, especially the A1 model with the upgraded trigger guard and safety and thicker barrel (though I don't know why the barrel needs to be so thick, I do enjoy that it is!)
One demerit is I think the Mossberg is built to a lower standard than the 870. One example I have from my own gun is that the barrel detent and ball setup to fit under the magazine cap came loose out of the box and had to be peened over again. Not a huge deal but come on. It happened to my buddy's shotgun, too.
Not sure if that would be tactical ing it, but, great stocks, I took the magpul furniture off a 500 I got for a good price and put it on my 590A1 mariner, love it! When I first looked at the magpul stock, I thought it was gangly/ugly ish, but bring it to shoulder and wow,,, fits and feels great so comfortable and aims really well! I would recommend it to anyone!
Taccing up guns makes the heavy and slow. Good use for an 870 express IMO. I've yet to have one that could keep up with fast cycling. They always slip the carrier dog and pile drive the shell into the bridge between the mag tube and barrel. New 870s suck. Mossberg 590A1 is my choice for a bush/camp shotgun. I practice double taps to keep me ready for fast follow up shots, and can get 2 holes in the target before both hulls are on the ground. With a newer express I can't get the second round to chamber before a fast moving "problem" would invalidate my jammed 870 and rag doll me around like a pinball bouncing off sh!t sandwhiches.
BeaverMeat
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Depends what “taccing up” is to you... if it’s adding a bunch of rails and junk, ok. That’s personal preference and you can do that to any shotgun. More parts for the 870 because they are “plain”.
Overall Mossberg has some good “tactical” offerings from factory. I like a 500 with a pistol grip. Full stock, I go Remington.
Overall Mossberg has some good “tactical” offerings from factory. I like a 500 with a pistol grip. Full stock, I go Remington.
Rayleigh_Scattering
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I wanted to try different length of pull and cheek positions, and figured an easy way to do that would be with one of the length/height adjustable M4 style stocks.
Once that tells me what feels best, I`d then go find a more traditionally shaped stock with those same dimensions (personal preference).
A thriving market in such stocks and accessories for 500`s on the EE would have made that simpler.
But maybe I should ask, instead, what do folks usually do to find out what fits properly, and then to get that hardware fitted? Does it involve going to the local shooting supplies store and spending money like a drunken sailor?
Once that tells me what feels best, I`d then go find a more traditionally shaped stock with those same dimensions (personal preference).
A thriving market in such stocks and accessories for 500`s on the EE would have made that simpler.
But maybe I should ask, instead, what do folks usually do to find out what fits properly, and then to get that hardware fitted? Does it involve going to the local shooting supplies store and spending money like a drunken sailor?
BeaverMeat
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Your over-complicating a shotgun... it’s a shotgun, not a rifle. What are you doing with it?
A true “tactical” shotgun is basically breaching doors and ultra short range engagements.
Comfort means squat!!!
A true “tactical” shotgun is basically breaching doors and ultra short range engagements.
Comfort means squat!!!
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Get a Magpul stock for the Mossberg, it has spacers for lop and different height cheek risers and is still more of a traditional stock than an M4 stock. Don’t get me wrong I like an M4 stock on a shotgun but a reg stock set up sees more use for me.
Rayleigh_Scattering
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I am following the “Close eyes. Lift up. Tuck stock into shoulder/cheek onto stock. Open eyes. See how close you are to intended sight position. Adjust stock and repeat until an eyes-closed lift gets you to very close to your intended sight position.” Logic.
Long term comfort isn’t a concern, as I don’t shoot much. My goal is a quick sight picture.
You need trigger time, not a pile of parts that don't fit. After a few range trips you'll start to settle in with muscle memory. I don't run a cheek riser on my ghost ring shotguns for various reasons including heavy winter clothing, ear pro hitting the stock etc. I don't need a proper cheek weld for instant sight picture. Muscle memory puts me where I need to be as I bring the shotgun up. This isn't a hard fought for reality, it comes quickly with range time. A magpul SGA is your best bet for inexpensively finding a good fit. LOP is adjustable from 12.5" to 14 or 14.5" with the included 1/2" spacers. 4 different cheek risers are available including the low riser that comes with it (usually works for bead sight) plus 3 raised heights available separately for GRS and optics. It also has the shortest reach to the trigger of any traditional style buttstock for Mossbergs. Unless you have big hands, the reach can create a little strain in your hand after a while. And being a traditional stock you still have rapid access to both the safety and action release, both of which can be hindered by pistol gripped stocks. The recoil pad works fairly well and provides excellent purchase on the shoulder without being grabby like softer recoil pads. For the ultimate in cushy air ride feel you can buy the Remington recoil pad adapter from Magpul and install a Limbsaver Airtech pad for synthetic stock 870s on the SGA. Recoil goes to hell in a cute handbasket and 3" mag shells go downrange like party poppers.
The Mariner is great. Would love to own one.
Exactly. Fit and comfort is an after thought at best when it comes to this style SG. Hunting & sporting SG's are an entirely different thing.
Does one think if you're handed a shotgun as an LE or Mil they give a damn about fit ? You make it work when it comes to tac guns. The trick is to keep it simple and light.
I do essentially the same things to my 590a1's and 870 HD guns. Shorter Hogue LOP stock & forend, XS big dots, over sized safeties, improve the triggers, flashlight/mount. That's it, don't even like ammo on them. Hate the way it changes balance.
Does one think if you're handed a shotgun as an LE or Mil they give a damn about fit ? You make it work when it comes to tac guns. The trick is to keep it simple and light.
I do essentially the same things to my 590a1's and 870 HD guns. Shorter Hogue LOP stock & forend, XS big dots, over sized safeties, improve the triggers, flashlight/mount. That's it, don't even like ammo on them. Hate the way it changes balance.
^lol...I agree with this, but if you're having fun weighing down your gun and supporting the economy=all good! I had an 870P for a couple of years, and have had several 870 pumps. I find them a little easier/more intuitive to work on, but having played with a 500 Persuader (full-length mag tube)..I bought one, and sold the 870P. For a light, "fun" shotgun...I just prefer it over the 870. In fact, I'm contemplating a 500 field gun in a lighter gauge because of my affection for the Persuader. Anyhow, about the ONLY accessory I'm considering mounting a light, but the least-junky/smallest mount I can find will cost about $100. Just not a priority at the moment, and I dig the fact that the gun runs so well with nothing bogging it down.
To the OP's question~yes, just so many sporting 870s out there feeding the used market, easy guns to work on, screw-on mag extensions that take seconds to install~lots to like if you like to tinker. On the other hand, if you're a middle-aged guy with inherited rotator cuff issues like I am...long carries with unnecessarily heavy guns=just not as much fun as it once was. I like my 500, but entry level 590s (not A1) would be where I'd be looking if I was shopping today. Love me some good parkerizing!
apex survival
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One thing for sure - if you're looking for parts, it is always easier to find parts for Mossies than it is for 870's - receiver rails, stocks, lights, mag extensions, forends always seem to be available, if you want 870 parts, not so much. Ergo makes a really nice keymod forend for the 500, but not for the 870.
