Future of semi auto shotguns in Canada

[Butcherbill]

Of course I would - cause he's not throwing you under the bus. He disagrees with you. Guns are important to me, but friends and family more so. If I demanded that everyone in my world agreed with me on everything, I'd be a pretty lonely guy. (Probably single too).

Rob!

It’s too bad you don’t see that his “friend” would throw you and fellow gun owners under the proverbial bus, just his words alone say that he would. If one of my gun/hunting buddies said that I’d have no problem cutting ties.

My true friends don't blame other firearms owners for new firearms restrictions, or for the antis wanting to ban certain firearms. We may not agree on sports teams, or brands of firearms or automobiles/motorcycles, but we don't try to prevent another friend from enjoying a product, just because we don't like that product. Some of my friends don't even hunt, or own firearms, but they don't try to ban either.

Exactly, nailed it.

 

[Cameron SS]

A friend of mine (as fuddish as they make them) figures that it's all the handgun and ar owners fault for bring heat down on the the rest of the gun owners in the country.
He like John Tory figures there is no legitimate use for handguns in Canada other than military and cops.
How do you reason with people like that?

Ask him what exactly it was that legal owners of handguns actually did to bring down the heat? If his amswer is they brought the heat for simply owning them, ask him how he is amy different.

With regards to hunting, Tell him all we need to do is repeal the laws that prohibit hunting with restricted firearms, and there will be all kinds of usefulness for these firearms, which are used to hunt in many other countries without any issue.

.223 remington is .223 remington. Does the coyote really care about what class of firearm its shot out of?

There would be a sound argument to make about public safety issues with restricted firearms necissitating a ban on hunting with restricted, IF our firearms were in anyway classified based on sensible differences in characteristics based on proven public safety concerns.

If he cant reasonably articulate why handguns and ARs shouldnt be used for hunting from a technical standpoint, or agree that the ban on hunting with handguns and ARs is stupid, and blanes owners of these guns for threatening his ownership simply by owning them, then he is a halfwit and not worth calling a friend. Especially if YOU are a handgun owner.

For me, the only firearms that should be restricted and not permitted for use with hunting is full-time full-autos. Select fire full autos should be permitted in semi auto mode only. Everything else is just an ordinary firearm that shoukd be completely unrestricted.

 

[Chris Marchetti]

Ask him what exactly it was that legal owners of handguns actually did to bring down the heat? If his amswer is they brought the heat for simply owning them, ask him how he is amy different.

With regards to hunting, Tell him all we need to do is repeal the laws that prohibit hunting with restricted firearms, and there will be all kinds of usefulness for these firearms, which are used to hunt in many other countries without any issue.

.223 remington is .223 remington. Does the coyote really care about what class of firearm its shot out of?

There would be a sound argument to make about public safety issues with restricted firearms necissitating a ban on hunting with restricted, IF our firearms were in anyway classified based on sensible differences in characteristics based on proven public safety concerns.

If he cant reasonably articulate why handguns and ARs shouldnt be used for hunting from a technical standpoint, or agree that the ban on hunting with handguns and ARs is stupid, and blanes owners of these guns for threatening his ownership simply by owning them, then he is a halfwit and not worth calling a friend. Especially if YOU are a handgun owner.

For me, the only firearms that should be restricted and not permitted for use with hunting is full-time full-autos. Select fire full autos should be permitted in semi auto mode only. Everything else is just an ordinary firearm that shoukd be completely unrestricted.

 

[GUB]

A scared (of firearms) fanatical liberal is a dangerous person..
They want complete control of us..cradle to grave
And as history has shown ..they will use firearms to disarm us.
Why else would the police and military need firearms
Some of the U.S. channels now know that they can not keep theirs through the ballot box
And sadly that is the way our civilization is headed..no turning back now
The divide is to great

 

[cornelunc]

If semi auto shotguns get restricted/prohibited, that means a whole lot of things have gone bad.


Edit: Won't happen for all the huntin' reasons.


Also, why do people need automatic cars? Manual cars worked as intended, and automatics just make things easier... see how that argument doesn't make sense? It has the same 'value' as the semi-auto argument; worthless.

I sold my Beretta semi shotgun and almost all colection of SKS from fear of liberals.

 

[GUB]

I sold my Beretta semi shotgun and almost all colection of SKS from fear of liberals.

And of course that attitude is right from the gun grabbers play book.
congrats for falling in line with no resistance

 

[rifleman338]

And of course that attitude is right from the gun grabbers play book.
congrats for falling in line with no resistance

^^^Yup, and that's exactly the response they want from people. Feeding the sheep to the wolves. Spineless as you can get in my opinion and probably the worst choice to post it online so all can see.

 

[Brutus]

I sold my Beretta semi shotgun and almost all colection of SKS from fear of liberals.

Gee, that's great. However, you observe several Eurotrash countries actually restricted pump action shotguns versus semi autos? Perhaps because these same government's desire to look pro-active on gun control, however they don't wish to piss off thier own continental gun makers. I really think it's wise to avoid even openly discussing (however innocuous) a classification of firearm that MSM virtually ignores in the spotlight. Gives the unintended impression we are open to virtually any and all further efforts to shrink our personal private property. Fly under the radar with what ever you can reasonably manage. My 2 bits only...

 

[peterem]

I ponder this as well,

My tinfoil hat looks like something "The Cat in the hat" would wear... but the truth may be in plain sight.

1)George Carlin, the elites want dummied down imbeciles who are docile , only smart enough to run the machines, not smart enough to think for themselves
- look at our education system which indoctrinates rather than teaches. The 2 latest generations are not critical thinkers, they are spoiled & cant think or reason.

2)Martin Armstorng, one of the best economic forecasters of our time feels that a huge transition is underway, starting with the collapse of the EU due to corrupt self serving politicians in Brussels making laws /policies to ensure their own pensions but will permanently cripple Europe. Smart monies will transit to USA next couple years.
-Cashless society will make public vulnerable to "bail ins" and confiscations (endless hunt for tax revenues)
-USA / USD rises sharply to say 2033, but then they blow up as the usd is to expensive and exports collapse. The USA economy collapses mid 2030s ASIA rises.
- Global warming is a hoax with an endgame towards imposition of crippling carbon tax, just like how income tax enslaved people to finance ww1

3)WW1 was totally planned years in advance, Elites needed a central bank in USA to control money issuance & income tax imposed so american "peasants" would finance war
-Secret treaties were established to re draw the maps of Europe and the middle east so the imperialist powers could profit.

4) WW2 was an inevitability due to the harsh reparations imposed on Germany. Hitler was, like Sadam Hussain a patsy that got away from the western powers that helped him take power (They wanted him to keep the russians in check which he did) Banksters making tons of money in WW2 did a lot of work to prolong the war. Pearl harbor was expected, the japenese also did attempt to warn the usa the attack was comming. (lots of new docs been declassified)

5)Korea & Vietnam all to enrich the military industrial complex and the bankers. Inadvertently the CIA learned that taking over world drug supply (opium) is very lucrative.

6)Middle east wars for oil, usa now serves as part of a cartel with UK, israel & Saudi
7)Afganistan / latin america all about cia control of drugs (Afghanistan has a lot of mineral wealth + its on russias doorstep)
8)World financial crisis all about transferring wealth from the bottom 90% to the top 1%
9) Beware Werner Von Braum's warnings that USA only moves if it has a bogeyman. usa would initiate hostility with russia; bully 3rd world nations, then ultimately fake a war with alien invaders.
10) Diehold foundation theory that the sun has a severe, nasty and catastrophic storm every 12, 100 or so years wiping out much of earth's surface. They have a guess that the next storm will be in Sept-Dec of 2048 (how is that for a tin foil hat... !!)
- Certainly makes ya think about the age of the pyramids, Gobeckli Tepe and original Mayan ruins.
- Makes ya think about Admiral Byrd & his hollow earth visit.

Sooo tinfoil hat stuff aside... the elites want control over key resources and the wealth of citizens.
If we civilians are armed, that makes it hard to impose severe austerity on the "peasants" + national armies wont fire on their own citizens.
Thus the UN will do it. The so called free trade deals are about removing "nationalist" government and imposing either corporate control or
UN control on the peasants of the world (that is "us)

If we are disarmed, and dummied down, we can't defend ourselves. This has lead to some of the worst tyrannical disasters of history....
THOSE WHO GIVE UP LIBERTY FOR SAFETY DESERVE NEITHER.

Ya I will get ridiculed for this......

One has to wonder what the endgame is?

Surely the elites/UN/ TPTB are planning something huge, or know something. Why is the UN Pushing for civil disarmament? It's obviously not about making the world safer, it's 100% about control.

The intellegence level of the average human boggles my mind... People are so FKKin stoopid, they actually believe that making more laws is the answer. Somehow these criminals who commit gun crime will now obey the law??????????

it makes me sick, that these 'people' are our leaders... Shame on you.

 

[Boomer]

If our only argument against unjust guns laws is based on hunting, hobby or sport, we've already lost. Our best argument is that private gun ownership is essential for the protection of the right to life, liberty, and security of the individual as spelled out in the Charter. Guns can be lawfully used to acquire food and to protect life from threats 4 legged or two. The other side will argue that guns are far too dangerous to be allowed simply for sport or hobbies, so that argument is dead in the water.

 

[trebor2880]

I sold my Beretta semi shotgun and almost all colection of SKS from fear of liberals.

So that's your story, and you're sticking to it, eh. Smart fella, to have it in print for all to see. Think I'll do the same with all my unregistered guns.

 

[ReverendX]

While we aren't out of the woods yet, things are a little better now that the fat slug, Jodie Wilson Raybould, is out of a job.

 

[3macs1]

I am getting so tired of this foolishness
I have well over 20 semi shotguns all vintage hunting versions in every gauge from 410 to 10ga and the government has been coming for them since 1965. NOT
They didnot want them then and they do not want them now. Not sure why guys here cannot grasp that other than to try to make others upset
Wait now maybe someone is going to take the plug out of my 410 1100 and turn it into a 5 shot

Get it in your heads guns that make money for the government semi or not are going no where and duck guns make a ton of dollars

Cheers

 

[canvasback]

I am getting so tired of this foolishness
I have well over 20 semi shotguns all vintage hunting versions in every gauge from 410 to 10ga and the government has been coming for them since 1965. NOT
They didnot want them then and they do not want them now. Not sure why guys here cannot grasp that other than to try to make others upset
Wait now maybe someone is going to take the plug out of my 410 1100 and turn it into a 5 shot

Get it in your heads guns that make money for the government semi or not are going no where and duck guns make a ton of dollars

Cheers

Don't kid yourself. All it will take is an event like both Australia and New Zealand have had when we have a Liberal government or a cucked CPC government and semis and pumps will be gone. Hiding behind hunting won't help. What you and other hunters should be doing (you may be, I don't know) is standing shoulder to shoulder with firearms enthusiasts of all types to defend restricted and prohibs from the goverment and the anti gun forces. Each day and every day.

 

[canvasback]

if our only argument against unjust guns laws is based on hunting, hobby or sport, we've already lost. Our best argument is that private gun ownership is essential for the protection of the right to life, liberty, and security of the individual as spelled out in the charter. Guns can be lawfully used to acquire food and to protect life from threats 4 legged or two. The other side will argue that guns are far too dangerous to be allowed simply for sport or hobbies, so that argument is dead in the water.

this!!!!!!!!

 

[GUB]

I am getting so tired of this foolishness
I have well over 20 semi shotguns all vintage hunting versions in every gauge from 410 to 10ga and the government has been coming for them since 1965. NOT
They didnot want them then and they do not want them now. Not sure why guys here cannot grasp that other than to try to make others upset
Wait now maybe someone is going to take the plug out of my 410 1100 and turn it into a 5 shot

Get it in your heads guns that make money for the government semi or not are going no where and duck guns make a ton of dollars

Cheers

Sorry guy you are dwelling on the past when people were reasonable and our schools and teachers were not indoctranating our kids to be raving loonie lefties and social justice warriors

 

[stubblejumper]

I am getting so tired of this foolishness
I have well over 20 semi shotguns all vintage hunting versions in every gauge from 410 to 10ga and the government has been coming for them since 1965. NOT
They didnot want them then and they do not want them now. Not sure why guys here cannot grasp that other than to try to make others upset
Wait now maybe someone is going to take the plug out of my 410 1100 and turn it into a 5 shot

Get it in your heads guns that make money for the government semi or not are going no where and duck guns make a ton of dollars

Cheers

The Alberta oil industry brings in a lot more revenue than firearms, yet the government is trying hard to destroy it. If banning firearms brings in enough votes in the big cities like Toronto, the government won't hesitate to ban them.

 

[IvoB]

The libs will be out in 7 months

 

[3macs1]

Don't kid yourself. All it will take is an event like both Australia and New Zealand have had when we have a Liberal government or a cucked CPC government and semis and pumps will be gone. Hiding behind hunting won't help. What you and other hunters should be doing (you may be, I don't know) is standing shoulder to shoulder with firearms enthusiasts of all types to defend restricted and prohibs from the goverment and the anti gun forces. Each day and every day.

There has been many such events over the years and a lot closer than new Zealand
This hunter has 12(x) and grew up owning and shooting full auto's and still even with 2/3 of his collection sold off has more to lose than most non hunting gun owners. Am I worried NOPE
Don't tell me what I should be doing I was raised NRA first not like the jokers up here that cannot even get 100,000 members
Just so tried of the BS over and over, year after year semi ban being everything , they are taking your handguns and most times by guys that don't even one ONE
A total semi ban will NEVER happen even in CANADA
Cheers

 

[1963beretta]

7 months seems so far away! Cant come soon enough for me.

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