Thank you
Restricted storage question?
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Thank you
Its both. The Firearms Act and its spawn (the regulations) are a mess. Compared against the standard of many other acts and regulations, it ranks amongst the worst, imho. That said, if you read it often enough, backward and forward, you can understand it. Having it kicked around for nearly 25 years now has certainly helped with trying to understand it. (Aside from newer changes to the law, and the RCMP's constant attempts to try and impose their own desired interpretation.)
But most folks don't bother with actually reading the legislation. Most are instead generally content to seek out umpteen different opinions from other people, many of whom themselves haven't read it (or have only read bits and pieces). Or have no background whatsoever in statutory interpretation or even a decent grasp of the English language. This invariably produces mass confusion, mythologies, questions - new and old, rinse and repeat.
And there will always be those folks who think you ought to go a little beyond what they think the law requires, "just to be safe" (pun intended). As well as the folks who always thought (and with honest intent) that what they were doing was sensible and reasonable, and legal, until someday a police officer and a Crown attorney (and perhaps a judge too) comes along and tells them otherwise.
Thanks, need to get me a sign!
The right person, with the right tools can pop that sucker in under an hour - ask a steel fabricator. It isn't even T6, and it's light guage (under an inch) so Oxy Accet, or a plasma cutter stolen from a body shop, used correctly will cut that pretty steel and powder coat box like it was ice cream. That's without getting all "brute force and ignorance" and building a thermal lance (O2 some pipe a carbon arc and know how), which would also have dealt with a 700 Kg concrete safe in 10 minutes. The reality that you're ignoring is that if someone wants in badly enough, they'll get in. That is NOT what the storage requirements were intended to address, they were intended to address "unauthorized access" meaning little Johnny showing his friends his Dad's gun. The intention of parliament in writing the rules is important in deciding guilt or innocence.
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Yes, if someone ( a pro) wants to get into your safe, they will! Even banks get broken into! It is the time and expertise needed which is the issue! Our local CTC has more guns than most of us and even with upgrades it would be very easy to get into it, but was okey dokey'ed by the cfo. So as enefgee said, it is meant to resist unauthorized use,,, within reason! Depending on the individuals situation, they may want to go well above the minimum required to ensure little Johnny or big Jane doesn't get into the fire sticks!
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Very true. I just wish more people realized this and dealt honestly with it, and respected other peoples choices to come to a different solution and recognized it as sensible for them, without feeling threatened by it, Rather than assume their preferred way is THE way and then torture an interpretation of law to reinforce what they would have believed anyways.
To each their own, always.
It all depend on the % of risk you are good for.
My tolerance to risk is 0% in the things i can control.
It's always about assuming my choices.
I am completly detached from others décisions as each and everyone of us is entitled to there own % of risk.
My tolerance to risk is 0% in the things i can control.
It's always about assuming my choices.
I am completly detached from others décisions as each and everyone of us is entitled to there own % of risk.
Don't think so....
You have to restrict access to ammo.....even from people in your own house ....unless you live alone....if there are kids and unlicensed adults living with you ...you have to lock up your ammo.....it's not just about theft it's about kids shooting themselves while playing with guns...or suicide prevention.
Yet anyone one of any age with or without a PAL can walk into a BassPro, Cabelas, etc and there is isle upon isle of unsecured ammo just waiting for a not so upstanding citizen to open the odd box and pocket a few rounds here and there.
It's a store....
Not a dwelling...
And most place lock their ammo up.
I never claimed that C-68 made sense.....it should be scrapped.....but never will....
You listening Harper....you @$$hole!
Seriously dude you need to actually read the law before you keep telling people what it is. The law was literally posted 14 posts above and then quoted 8, 10 and 12 posts above. And yet still you post BS.
Not even the law that covers ammo. You really need to read more and post less.
Shawn
.....and yet they meet the "legal" definition.
