Ballistic Plates Incoming

AITacticalSolutions said:
We hear you guys and we are working as fast as we can. But to tide you all over here are some of the photos from testing

Aluminum Level IV hit with a .30-06. Only 11mm of back face deformation on the plate and around 23mm in the clay. Also we found out that all these plates are of a tiled construction, so they should be multi hit.
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Distance fired / projectile used / velocity ? was NIJ test replicated ( which uses a single shoot test barrel / jig ) ? FYI the clay must have steel ball dropped into it from prescribed height and is the measured to obtain proper depth / your replication is far from valid and somewhat miss-leading if your looking to obtain true data & clay reacts differently if not kept at prescribed temperature / plus the plate is supposed to be shoot with a 30-06 M2 AP round which is the current prescribed test round


gadget
 
gadget said:
Distance fired / projectile used / velocity ? was NIJ test replicated ( which uses a single shoot test barrel / jig ) ? FYI the clay must have steel ball dropped into it from prescribed height and is the measured to obtain proper depth / your replication is far from valid and somewhat miss-leading if your looking to obtain true data & clay reacts differently if not kept at prescribed temperature / plus the plate is supposed to be shoot with a 30-06 M2 AP round which is the current prescribed test round


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Firstly we are never claiming that we where going to replicate NIJ testing standards perfectly. The whole point of this was to prove that the plates work. Which we are now convinced that they do. Second we have the NIJ testing reports and this was mostly to ensure that we where comfortable selling these products. It’s a manufacturer we hadn’t dealt with before and this was a way of keeping them honest. Finally I will give you the information that I have. Distance:10m Projectile Used:168gr FMJ (yes we know we have to use AP however if it can hold up to a .30-06 that is a very good sign for its overall durability, especially with such minimal deformation on the back of the plate). We didn’t have an NIJ single shoot test barrel/jig so we used a full length Enfield P17 into a sandbagged wooden jig. If there is any other info you might want please do let us know. If you are looking for the lab tests we have posted those previously, and we will have them on the relevant product pages. If you want us to post them again just let us know.
 
AITacticalSolutions said:
Firstly we are never claiming that we where going to replicate NIJ testing standards perfectly. The whole point of this was to prove that the plates work. Which we are now convinced that they do. Second we have the NIJ testing reports and this was mostly to ensure that we where comfortable selling these products. It’s a manufacturer we hadn’t dealt with before and this was a way of keeping them honest. Finally I will give you the information that I have. Distance:10m Projectile Used:168gr FMJ (yes we know we have to use AP however if it can hold up to a .30-06 that is a very good sign for its overall durability, especially with such minimal deformation on the back of the plate). We didn’t have an NIJ single shoot test barrel/jig so we used a full length Enfield P17 into a sandbagged wooden jig. If there is any other info you might want please do let us know. If you are looking for the lab tests we have posted those previously, and we will have them on the relevant product pages. If you want us to post them again just let us know.
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Are you still planning on getting the IV plates NIJ tested as the manufacture did not?

Shawn
 
shawn said:
Are you still planning on getting the IV plates NIJ tested as the manufacture did not?

Shawn
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Yes we are. Its a much more complicated process than what we just did so we needed to know if we had enough volume to justify it. However we here are now very comfortable in selling the level IV as we have seen how it has held up, so depending on how sales of everything will go then we will send them off to get officially tested.
 
AITacticalSolutions said:
We hear you guys and we are working as fast as we can. But to tide you all over here are some of the photos from testing

Aluminum Level IV hit with a .30-06. Only 11mm of back face deformation on the plate and around 23mm in the clay. Also we found out that all these plates are of a tiled construction, so they should be multi hit.
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Awesome! Thanks for the update!
 
Silicon Carbide Level IV

Took a hit right on the edge from a .30-06. The backface deformation was larger at 21mm on the plate, however the plate managed to catch all of the spalling even at the far edge.
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After reading for over a month, I'm definitely in for a set of 3+ steel plus a carrier. I'll be waiting somewhat-patiently for the pre-order link
 
Is the Aluminum Oxide ceramic plate tougher than the Silicon Carbide ceramic plate? From the photos it looks like it handled the 30-06 round better.
 
AITacticalSolutions said:
Yes we are. Its a much more complicated process than what we just did so we needed to know if we had enough volume to justify it. However we here are now very comfortable in selling the level IV as we have seen how it has held up, so depending on how sales of everything will go then we will send them off to get officially tested.
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Shawn
 
AITacticalSolutions said:
We are trying to edit the footage together but this is our first time ever attempting this and as you might imagine we are not experts and it is taking a little longer than expected.
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I understand why everyone is being impatient, but take your time with the filming and editing of the video (assuming it is already not filmed and edited). It is better that some decent footage is acquired the first time than having everyone complain about various technical aspects of the testing or video quality. Which may have many requesting for the video to be re filmed, requiring more plates than need be. Regardless, excited to see the results. The prices look promising and so is what is currently known of the performance.
 
BadLieutenant said:
From $89 to $119 for steel...... what makes them 33% more expensive?
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We made a mistake initially with the prices and forgot to change the cost to us over from USD. When we where putting them up for pre-order we caught our mistake and changed it. We do apologize for this price change and for the fact that we messed up initially.
 
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We made a mistake initially with the prices and forgot to change the cost to us over from USD. When we where putting them up for pre-order we caught our mistake and changed it. We do apologize for this price change and for the fact that we messed up initially.
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Just a heads up that the original post is still listing them at 89.99
 
benwilliam said:
Interested in your thoughts AITactical and the CGN community at large. Aluminium Oxide or Silicon Carbide. I've read online, info is ambiguous.
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What we have found is the primary difference is just weight savings. They are very similar in terms of toughness. Our photos isn't the most accurate for telling the difference between the materials, the shot placement is not identical so we can't make any judgments based off that photo. However what we have found is they are pretty much the same and all you are paying for is weight savings. It might be that Silicon Carbide is a little more fragile, but not to a large degree when compared to Aluminum Oxide. We hope these observations have been somewhat helpful.
 
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