Wk180-C technical questions & answers only

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I have a 2019 manufacture 556 barrel. Finally had time to shoot it today ran 30 rounds of Winchester value pack then probably 30 rounds of 55gr VMAX handloads. Gun worked great however all the brass has a ring around the shoulder; no ftf or fte. Looks a lot like a chipped reamer has anyone else notice this?
 
WereWeasel said:
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I have a 2019 manufacture 556 barrel. Finally had time to shoot it today ran 30 rounds of Winchester value pack then probably 30 rounds of 55gr VMAX handloads. Gun worked great however all the brass has a ring around the shoulder; no ftf or fte. Looks a lot like a chipped reamer has anyone else notice this?
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Yup mine has the same thing going on, I will try and post pictures of the brass tonight. I'm just happy that the rest of the chamber seems to be smooth, and it's not struggling to extract ect.

Oh and on that bolt breakage thing, I thought it would be a good idea to grind that part back so it doesn't slam into the rear of the receiver, but it apears the rear of the bolt on mine was already shaped so it doesnt contact... it does look like they are making improvements along the way.
 
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Baitcaster said:
I sent an email to Owen at Kodiak expressing my dissatisfaction with this whole charging handle debacle. Everyone else should too.
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I did and they keep insisting it’s cosmetic. What am I supposed to do, keep shooting the rifle until the whole inside is worn down to half of the original size! I don’t even want to shoot it anymore until this gets sorted out.
 
wrxs said:
This failure is not unique to your rifle,the whole bolt and charging handle need an upgrade. Imagine if the shards caused a trigger or safety failure......
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I can tell you from reliability testing of my last rifle (before I dumped the lemon...) that the trigger assy pocket in the receiver is very tight by design.
Even slight debris in there did and will cause issues with the sear and disconnect. There is no room for anything to be in there without impacting the function of the trigger.

Just getting small amounts of snow in there caused partial disengagement of the sear to the point where it was hanging on by a hair and actually went off after squeezing trigger, failure to drop hammer and releasing tension on the trigger.
 
kuffs06 said:
I did and they keep insisting it’s cosmetic. What am I supposed to do, keep shooting the rifle until the whole inside is worn down to half of the original size! I don’t even want to shoot it anymore until this gets sorted out.
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I wouldn't shoot it until this gets sorted out, it's going to destroy the receiver. If it were a car and a wheel rubbed on a fender, the damage would be cosmetic...until you got a blow out. I'm getting a new updated bolt because mine shattered and they don't have any more of the old ones. I'm seriously considering dumping thebrifle while it's still worth a dime. Sad that even Norinco has less issues. I didn't buy an old M305 clone or a Ruger mini because I didn't want headaches...and here we are. Thisbis supposed to be a tech page and it's turned into customer dissatisfaction forum. That in itself should clue them in. Mr. Wolverine has been absent from these posts. I would like him to chime in.
 
I have the same issue, charging handle is tearing my upper apart. Not just scuffing of the surface but full blown gouges and shaving of the metal.

Got the same response from Owen, deemed cosmetic and until the rifle stops working they wont do anything about addressing it. I'll try the upgraded threaded bolt/handle when it's available to see if that stops it. My Cam pin that slides along the upper is also doing a number on the finish but I suspect thats normal for the design ?
 
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Merovingian said:
I have the same issue, charging handle is tearing my upper apart. Not just scuffing of the surface but full blown gouges and shaving of the metal.

Got the same response from Owen, deemed cosmetic and until the rifle stops working they wont do anything about addressing it. I'll try the upgraded threaded bolt/handle when it's available to see if that stops it. My Cam pin that slides along the upper is also doing a number on the finish but I suspect thats normal for the design ?
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Another part that I took the sharp edges off and polished.
 
Merovingian said:
I have the same issue, charging handle is tearing my upper apart. Not just scuffing of the surface but full blown gouges and shaving of the metal.

Got the same response from Owen, deemed cosmetic and until the rifle stops working they wont do anything about addressing it. I'll try the upgraded threaded bolt/handle when it's available to see if that stops it. My Cam pin that slides along the upper is also doing a number on the finish but I suspect thats normal for the design ?
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Don’t you think they should be giving you the parts instead of giving in to them and pay for them? That’s what I’m pissed at...not the fact that its happening. It’s a matter of principle! They don’t deserve to sell rifles!
I would never buy from a company who does not support their product. I only wish I never bought it and I can tell you that if I saw these posts there’s no way I would ever buy anything from them solely because they’re doing this!
 
WereWeasel said:
Do the shoulders also look more like beer bottles?
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This is what I got.

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kuffs06 said:
Don’t you think they should be giving you the parts instead of giving in to them and pay for them? That’s what I’m pissed at...not the fact that its happening. It’s a matter of principle! They don’t deserve to sell rifles!
I would never buy from a company who does not support their product. I only wish I never bought it and I can tell you that if I saw these posts there’s no way I would ever buy anything from them solely because they’re doing this!
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Well said. Totally agree with you! I wouldn't buy anything else on principle. PAYING FOR A PART I DIDN'T DESIGN OR BREAK IS NOT AN OPTION. Nobody should roll over and shell out money.

If any of you are journalists or lawyers, or have huge media following, ot have friends in those areas, help make this an itch Kodiak will need to scratch. Heck, I don't post much gun stuff on my IG and I started as well as many.

The rifles getting gauged by bolt are losing any resale value. By the time Kodiak realizes the huge business error the made by being jerks about it will leave them with depleted to few sales, if any, and all of us with worthless rifles.
 
After all this, I may unload mine after I get it back. I've lost confidence in the company and the product. Too bad. I loved the concept, but I can't risk putting my life in the hands of cost cutters. For all I know, this rifle could have another flaw deemed "cosmetic". I bought a rifle, not a Russian roulette trigger activated fragmentation grenade and I have this addiction to NOT being impaled by pieces of my sporting rifle.
 
Grizzlypeg said:
Something is wrong with that chamber. If someone had a bore scope and could post an image, it would be interesting to see if the chamber has that corresponding high ring.
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I could probably do that, it's not gonna be a high resolution photo. I know exactly what its gonna look like though. I'm getting good accuracy out of the thing so I'm not gonna worry.
 
Looking forward to seeing how Wolverine and Kodiak resolve these issues.... how they end up handling it will affect my decisions on purchasing the WK181 when available, and anything else they are producing/selling....
 
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