Registered my lower as a compete build, RCMP wants pictures of lower?
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nowarningshot
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Your fundamental assumption is wrong. Their mission is to harass, inhibit, and discourage. Service, and timely service don't even make any list.
So no issue taking a rifle out shooting it when registered as a lower only?
Any time I have updated a registration, the CFC is clear about not using the firearm until you have registration in hand for its current configuration.
rommelrommel
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What charge would they levy for not having a registration in the current configuration?
They can't charge anyone with removing and attaching non-firearm part to a firearm. They will have to prove to the crown that it was a "permanent change" for more than 30 days (which doesn't exist for AR platform) with reasonable chances for conviction.
Then you remove the upper and it is a "frame" again. Then you attach it, still a frame.
Useless clowns justifying their existence. And Murray Smith is the King of useless CFC lab clowns.
The CFC says the old registration is no longer valid once you notify them of the change. I would rather not be the test case considering how under the firearms act failure to produce valid paperwork can result in criminal charges
For AR upper change to be "permanent" you have to weld the front pivot pin.
Not gonna call them every time i use one of my 3 uppers and one lower registered as a "lower".
So you do you, I will do me.
OP can call them again when he removes the upper and ask them to register it back to "lower".
So if you have a receiver in your possession which I have several, I am supposed to call it in when it becomes a fully assembled rifle?
Why does this matter. The receiver is the firearm and nothing else. That’s what your registration says.
Am I supposed to get a new registration when I slide my Advantage Arms 22 conversion kit on my Glock as well.
They haven’t got a clue what they are doing. Tell them your installing a 21 foot barrel on it and take a photo of it with a full length of 1/2” schedule 40 pipe on it and send like 10 pics taped together and see if they will send you a reg cert for that.
What a bunch of clowns
Why does this matter. The receiver is the firearm and nothing else. That’s what your registration says.
Am I supposed to get a new registration when I slide my Advantage Arms 22 conversion kit on my Glock as well.
They haven’t got a clue what they are doing. Tell them your installing a 21 foot barrel on it and take a photo of it with a full length of 1/2” schedule 40 pipe on it and send like 10 pics taped together and see if they will send you a reg cert for that.
What a bunch of clowns
The endless, seemingly pointless bureaucratic enquiries (and some posts here) have a purpose. They need to slow down the change of of cheap stripped lowers to expensive completed rifles. It's tied to the economics of gun bans. Easier to ban $100 objects than those worth $1000-1500. What about service? If we have 30 days, then do they change registrations over in 30 days? 60? 90?
Yes, exactly. You just happened to request an updated registration for a lower that the FRT entry does not have pictures of. Once they confirm it isn't machined to take a full auto trigger group nobody else will be harassed about that model.
I still think a lot of you are interpreting the wording of the laws as how you and I would like them to be interpreted. We need to look at this from both a defensive perspective and a legal-speak perspective (and the perspective of a possible liberal win this October, barf). Realize that they could EASILY twist the "meaning" of the existing wording on that document for your lower to turn it into something that can only ever be a "receiver only" "unable to discharge ammunition" if a ban goes through. Congratulations on your new paperweight you need to keep in a safe, with a trigger lock on it, you can own that but if you ever turn it into an operable prohibited firearm you are in for some trouble.
They've already made the first move with c71 and the RCMP being given the power to make things up as they go. You've already gave them permission to walk into your house and look for it when you signed that R-pal. They even have a nice easy list of where to look with the registry. Maybe I'm being over-cautious, it just seems crazy to think that the people who don't want you to own these rifles or even be allowed to own a firearm at all in the first place care about what you feel is a fair interpretation of the law. That's just my 2 cents, its worth what you paid for it.
They've already made the first move with c71 and the RCMP being given the power to make things up as they go. You've already gave them permission to walk into your house and look for it when you signed that R-pal. They even have a nice easy list of where to look with the registry. Maybe I'm being over-cautious, it just seems crazy to think that the people who don't want you to own these rifles or even be allowed to own a firearm at all in the first place care about what you feel is a fair interpretation of the law. That's just my 2 cents, its worth what you paid for it.
