Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back

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Deckard said:
This place is infested with interlopers who concentrate on what is said. They are here to incite us into saying something or dissuade us from saying something or acting on it. That's the blatant surface.The reality is what is NOT said. When people opt out without a single word. But that's hard to put in a report and still look good to their masters.
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Back in the day, I never would have noticed something like this, and I'm sure I came across as one of them (maybe still do, haha!).

It is sure obvious this time.
 
Neurotoxic said:
What the hell happened last night? Obama gangsters and Mexican cartels conspiring with Israeli trained local police in order to disarm us and install a new world order?

Yes. Sure.

Let me know how that works in court.

To be honnest, anyone who thinks that gun owners are extremists and lunatics just had their stupid opinion confirmed if they read this. You sound like flat earthers and conpiracy nuts -- not like a law abiding gun owner. You can believe anything you want, but please don't bring this up if you ever have to defend our privilege to shoot and hunt.

Besides, you should watch your mouth when talking about the police and military. Some of us might be serving, or might have served. Most police officiers are honnest people. Guys in the military are there to fight against foreign threats, not to take away your guns. And most of them are on our side, FFS. Show some respect.
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some people are informed, some are not. you fall into the later category.
 
Neurotoxic said:
Besides, you should watch your mouth when talking about the police and military. Some of us might be serving, or might have served. Most police officiers are honnest people. Guys in the military are there to fight against foreign threats, not to take away your guns. And most of them are on our side, FFS. Show some respect.
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Love the swagger and fist shaking and collection of vintage platitudes.

Very quaint.

Sounds like somebody got rejected from a few jobs they wanted so they could act like a tough guy and it still burns ;)
 
airbatic said:
Thread is well off the rails....
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Best spot for it though, don't you think?


Guys get an idea in their head, and instead of them suppressing it and having it just sit there in the back of their mind festering, they can give it a bit of air time and reception.

Who knows how many guys with bad ideas or silly thoughts share here, that end up a little smarter or wiser for having shared and discussed it.


Yeah, better here than out there, right?
 
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madashell said:
Neurotoxic,

Believe it or not, about 3 years ago I had the opportunity while working to do a personal survey with police officers right across this country, literally Victoria to St. Johns, different city pretty much everyday over a 2 month period.

Daily I was in a position to strike up conversations with police officers, male & female and wide age group. The main question posed to them was:

If the Canadian government were to pass a sweeping gun ban law, no matter what the reason given, would you carry out orders to disarm public ?

Wanna guess what the responses were ? I'll save you the trouble of guessing ...


WITHOUT HESITATION, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SAID THEY WOULD CARRY IT OUT.

When pressed as to whether they may disagree with the law/orders or not, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SAID IF IT"S THE LAW, IT"S THE LAW AND THAT"S THAT.

And here's the thing, for the most part they all seemed like nice enough people.


You can choose not to believe my experience, but that would be naive.
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Do you prefer police offices who pick and choose which laws to enforce and which not to?
 
Well actually, having been on the beneficial end of this several times, at what I would consider key "which way is he goin'?" points in my life; I think I like this.

I'm talking about 'discretion' though, which isn't exactly the same thing.


If I trust and can relate to the cops out there (ie. A bunch of 'clean cut white guys' with families and gun collections of their own), then yes I want them to use their discretion (and phonebooks) as required.

Cops I can't relate to, or that are clearly leftist or establishment NPCS, should not have any sort of discretion.

Though, this may be a bit far off topic, for what we're talking about here today
GuiltySpark said:
Do you prefer police offices who pick and choose which laws to enforce and which not to?
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GuiltySpark said:
Do you prefer police offices who pick and choose which laws to enforce and which not to?
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Well they claim that they do this right now.

Plus posters claiming that their discretion was the only thing that kept citizens from being arrested for a myriad of petty infractions every time they walked out the door.

And threatening us that this could change etc etc blah blah blah.

Random aggressive behavours in a chaotic structure without set enforced norms do not make friends as recent statistics of police suicides show.

First they rake it one way.....then back again.

I wonder has there been any recent survey as to the percentage of the Canadian public that has respect for law enforcement?

That does not come from the public but is created by the parties that require it if they care or are interested in doing so.

Often the situations they are placed in make it impossible as they are not ones that the police are designed to handle and should be infrequent while
the problems in society are making them every day experiences. That does not help but to fix this we need a government that does more than
make excuses and try to find sunny sounding ways without doing any of the hard expensive work needed to address the problems.

so they send the police.

Like overcrowding in hospitals is dealt with by security. Not by funding the medical services so the emerg room does not look like the west bank during an Israeli bombardment.

So police and security must menace the sick and their distressed loved ones while they wait hours having trouble breathing but are supposed to wait quietly for their underfunded turn at emergency medical attention.

Respect for Law Enforcement would be interesting to track as there does not appear to be any factors in our society that does not create contempt for it and everything else.

A sign of a system out of equilibrium. That creates a cycle where the things eventually shakes apart and disintegrates. It comes from the top not the bottom.

If there is a plan nobody seems to want to share it.
 
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The progressive left are working very hard to replace our police force and military, with their own.

As things stand now, "we" still retain control, which is why none of us are in reeducation camps yet, lol.

The progressive tools (racism, ###ism, gender neutrality ie 'NPC-making) are being used to full effect, and the moral levels and public perception of the forces right now, is proof of it's current level of progression.
 
madashell said:
Save the b**l####.

There's laws that are truly wrong and you damn well know it.
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Democratic societies vote their government's in to power and societies generally guide the directions laws take. Like abortion, ### marriage and pot possession.

If a society feels a law is wrong then they'll start the process to change it ie voting in governments that will action change.

As mentioned police have some discretion on minor things like traffic violations. Less so for a law like making firearms prohibited and ordered to confiscate them.

Instead of biting your nails about the police put your energy into changing the government.
 
Well, technically this is the voter's job to do.

With voting to forgive SNC and the Mark Norman travesty; what did Canadian voters just give the ok to.
madashell said:
If police were ACTUALLY doing their jobs all these criminal gov. types would already be in prison and we wouldn't be facing this issue.

So you know where you can shove you BS troll.
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