Night vision questions
- Thread starter Clvland
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Made this mistake not only isn’t there somewhere to shoot outdoors but no range will allow you to shoot with the lights off, 6000$ paper weight...
used to use them in Milsim scenarios also ( Airsoft)
And there is a huge advantage with nv but all you’re gear has to be setup right ( ir laser, helmet counter weights) to make it worth it in a battle scenario.
My advice personally would be to not waste you’re time.
used to use them in Milsim scenarios also ( Airsoft)
And there is a huge advantage with nv but all you’re gear has to be setup right ( ir laser, helmet counter weights) to make it worth it in a battle scenario.
My advice personally would be to not waste you’re time.
I guess I'm lucky living in MB and in the country with no one nearby, so I'm able to go to my backyard and target/vermin shoot. By the sound of Quattro's post, Ontario is not night vision friendly at the ranges. In that case you will be pretty much relegated to airsoft and using them at night for hikes/walks. I really love using NODs for pretty much anything/everything at night, from cruising my side by side, taking care of rodents, target shooting, using them with my telescope, and just generally hiking. The cost of entry is high though, and if your main use for them is going to be shooting, I suspect you will be agreeing with Quattro that it is a mistake, if you can't ever actually shoot with them.
Crownland is OK, just make sure that your activity can't be mistaken for hunting.
All you need is to parallel zero your IR laser with the bore of your rifle. So measure the offset of your IR laser from your rifle bore axis and then using a bore sighter, set it up at say 75 yards.
If you have an IR laser with a slaved visible laser it'll be even easier.
All you need is to parallel zero your IR laser with the bore of your rifle. So measure the offset of your IR laser from your rifle bore axis and then using a bore sighter, set it up at say 75 yards.
If you have an IR laser with a slaved visible laser it'll be even easier.
If you do find somewhere to shoot make sure you have a good excuse as gunfire at night does tend to attract unwanted attention from RCMP and conservation officers and "I'm only target shooting" might not cut it. If you are being realistic most military's do not use a IR laser it looks cool but if your enemy has IR equipment it basically says shoot here. They also decrease the life of Image Intensifier tubes which are not cheap.
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Maybe but lots of guys here have $4-5K rifles.
$5-6K will get you Gen 3 monoculars, mounts and cheap (like mine) IR rifle lasers.
The advantage it gives you in the dark has to be experienced to make you understand how profound an advantage NODs and training are over those without them.
This is from Calibre magazines article on night shooting:
"I will, however, mention that some provinces, such as Ontario, have hunting regulations which state that, with some exceptions, if you are in an area usually inhabited by wildlife, firearms must be unloaded and encased at night. It isn’t clear to me whether this only applies to hunters, or to any person with a firearm. I have asked the question a number of times with Ontario COs, and I have yet to get a definitive answer."
So it looks like night shooting on Ontario crown land may not be good to go, at least if it is usually inhabited by wildlife, whatever "usually" means. I can say from experience in MB that I have had the RCMP show up to both my white light and NOD shooting nights, and it has not been a problem. Their only concern was the noise complaints. Specifically calls saying that "world war 3 is happening outside of town". They didn't shut me down, however they did want me to stop sooner rather than later. This has been very rare, and by being more selective of shooting nights, based on wind and humidity, I've yet to have a night shooting noise complaint in around 3 years. That or the police are busier with other real problems.
IR lasers may or may not be used in combat, but I would assume the US Army uses their PEQ-15's. However I don't work there, I don't know. What I do know is that an IR laser is the easiest way to shoot under NODs. Yes, you can use passive aiming if you have an Aimpoint/EoTech/etc. From experience though, if I don't need to use a passive aiming system, I'm not going to. Lasers are just simply easier, and combined with an IR illuminator, make for a much better shooting experience. As for decreasing the tubes life, your IR laser is on for maybe a few minutes out of a whole evening. At the absolute highest maybe 10% of the time. If they do decrease the lifespan, it will be an absolutely negligible amount, and can be considered a "cost of doing business".
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What? TACP/JTAC might disagree with you. Also there are plenty of weapon mounted LAM's commonly fielded; PEQ2/PAQ4C/PEQ15 come to mind.
OP, as far as canada goes, unless you have private land to shoot on at night, your use of NODS is going to be mostly limited to non shooting activities, or airsoft. It's hard to find ranges that let people shoot in the dark, which is unfortunate because it's a ton of fun
I will second that ActinBlack has quality products. I bought a set of DTNVG's from them, and man are they nice!
Lol and here I am buying pulsar like a schmuck....
Basically with night vision it’s hard to get anything American made especially a “NV Scope” but Euro country’s are not much of an issue other than breaking the piggy bank.
There are facebook groups that buy/sell nods outside of usa for decent prices. ACTinblack has nice stuff but they definitely put a premium because they have the market cornered. If you have patience you could definitly assemble a mono or dual tube setup for much cheaper than buying brand new... alpha optics in canada also sells photonis echo tubes for a really good price, but its a shame that their optics and housings are trash (like gsci and newcon). Although looks like FLIR/armasight sold off a bunch of bnvd housings and now other companies are assembling them and putting their own tubes in them, looks like alpha optics is selling their own bnvd with photonis tubes - which for the right price could be a good deal. I think it would be cool for more canadian shooters to get into NODs ####, feel free to pm me.
Lol... would also work with “how wrong you are” lol epic response.
Daynoodles
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What kind of crack are you smoking? Outside of a select few handful of special forces groups nobody else is even considering practicing passive aiming techniques for the primary method of aiming in the military with night vision. Also unless you are going to be reflecting that laser right into your front lens it is not going to damage your image intensifier. Crazy powerful units like the B.E. Meyers izlid cause no damage and they are 20x more powerful than a military Peq-15 or over 1000 times the power of a civilian class 1 laser.
If you don't know what you're talking about don't make #### up.
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Daynoodles
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Hold up... are we being graced by the presence of daynoodlez on here?! I think you should do a "Welcome to Canada, eh?" TFD Sorrow patch giveaway on CGN. Specifically to me
No . . .
