The Browning Hi Power Mk 2: initial thoughts and observations

I think the Pachmyers really helped you today. Good call. I liked them on the ones I sold. The thickness helps with the sharp corner at the tang.
Well done Master G.
Thanks! I did like how wonderfully slim the factory grips felt, but overall the Pachmayrs feel just right to me.
 
Great write-up, photos and video, Master G! I am very glad to hear that you are pleased with the Mk2 BHP that you purchased from me! May you enjoy many pleasurable range sessions with it...

Here's my latest addition, one of the refurbished Israeli Police Mk3s done in a 2-tone CeraKote with Cobalt on the Frame and Black on the Slide and Controls. I find that the Cobalt colour closely approximates Zinc Parkerizing in both colour and fine surface texture. I swapped out the Slide Stop for one of the Extended versions from Brownell's, which greatly reduces the need to "reach" for the control. And of course, I added the obligatory "skate tape" to the otherwise smooth Front and Back-Straps...


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I've had two MK IIIs and they were great, accurate, reliable pistols with a fantastic grip shape. My only gripe was the trigger feel. I missed a positive trigger reset and on slow fire, they lacked the smoothness of a good revolver or even a good DAO trigger. I often wondered what a tuned BHP trigger would feel like. Both of my pistols had the mag safety removed and were well broken in. One of mine had Spegal grips which were awesome. Both had grip tape! On the MK III, I shortened the hammer spur slightly which helped lessen hammer bite. I always intended to buy a Cylinder & Slide, no bite hammer and trigger combo which is a great option. The forged frames are often preferred however I believe the cast frames have proven to be just as long lasting, if not more so and I wouldn't hesitate to buy a good pistol with either. I prefer the original mags or modern MecGar ones vs the Browning mouse trap ones.
Even though I don't currently have a BHP, I think if I ever found one with a trigger that I really liked then that would be my final 9mm for just plain fun shooting. I don't need a super light trigger, just a smooth and positive one.
Great looking pistol and review.
 
The magazine safety does create a healthy trigger reset. When you remove it you might want to get a Wolff, 2 coil STANDARD trigger return spring that will increase reset.
 
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This pistol will be familiar to many readers but, even though I’ve seen a handgun owner for almost 40 years (and classic 9mm pistols being one of my favourite types) I’ve never owned Hi Power until this one showed up in the mail today—an excellent pre-Christmas present from the EE! It was pouring rain with high winds here today and with the malls jammed with shoppers I thought it an ideal day to stay home familiarize myself with my new pistol.

When I first picked it up I was surprised at how slim and comfortable the grip is! Even though I’d read about how comfortable it is I was still surprised. I think it may be the best fitting pistol for my small hands I’ve ever owned. It’s quite close in feel to the small grip model I’ve got on my SIG P320, but the Hi Power feels s bit better at first grip.

I’m not sure of the pistol’s finish—I think it’s parkerized but it may be some other type of matte finish. The frame on mine is a little bit lighter giving a pleasing subtle two-tone look.
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The previous owner added skateboard tape to the front and backstraps— I expected to remove it right away but it feels pretty good to be honest. I wasn’t really crazy about the look of the grips but they feel pretty good too—the vestigial thumbrest fits me very well.
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It’s a Mark II model—the “PR” date code in the serial number indicates that it was made in 1987 (the 245 prefix denotes a 9mm model). For a pistol made then, when three dot sights were quite common, the sights are surprisingly small, with no three dots or any other highlighting. Here’s the rear sight—you can see the rib that runs the full length of the slide:
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And here’s the front sight—it’s machined rather the dovetailed in, so I won’t be replacing it! The sight picture against a lighter background is quite crisp, although they do tend to disappear against a dark background (at least around the house!)
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The pistol has ambidextrous safeties—I’d read that the right-side safety bugs some shooters but it seems OK to me. The safety isn’t as positive off and on as a good 1911 but it was better than what I was expected. Early Hi Powers has internal extractors, but mine has an external one.
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There’s no removable bushing at the muzzle end of the slide. The small hole at the end of the slide below the barrel is supposedly intended to allow water to drain out of the pistol after submersion. I’m unlikely to test this feature out!
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The trigger is smooth and fairly narrow. Somewhere during the pistol’s life the dreaded magazine safety was removed—the trigger is quite nice and crisp now. The previous owner measured it at 5.5 pounds—it feels nicer than I was expecting!
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One neat feature that I only recently learned about is that when disassembling the pistol, the safety engages a notch in the slide to hold it open while the slide stop is popped out—it makes disassembly and re-assembly a dream.
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The barrel has two locking lugs, similar to a CZ75. Using this instead of the more modern method of using the chamber area to lock into the slide helps give the slide a nice, slim profile.
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Another unexpected feature is that the barrel does not use the slide stop pin to unlock, but instead uses this cross-piece in the frame instead.
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I'm really pleased with the feel of the pistol—it feels wonderful in the hand, and despite being all-steel only weighs in at a well-balanced 32 ounces. The trigger pull on mine is a pleasure, too, and the sights should be OK for my intended use as a "range fun" pistol. I'm hoping to get out to the range over the Christmas break if the weather holds—I'll update once I've had a chance to take it out.

I almost pulled the trigger on that one myself but went with a CZ75 instead. Nice looking gun, and great pictures!

As you mention that the grip fits your small hands well, I probably made the right decision because I have quite large hands. I would love to own a 1911, but they just feel awkward and uncomfortable in my hand. I would still like to at least try out a Hi-Power just to see how it feels. Definitely one of my bucket-list guns.
 
I've had two MK IIIs and they were great, accurate, reliable pistols with a fantastic grip shape. My only gripe was the trigger feel. I missed a positive trigger reset and on slow fire, they lacked the smoothness of a good revolver or even a good DAO trigger. I often wondered what a tuned BHP trigger would feel like. Both of my pistols had the mag safety removed and were well broken in. One of mine had Spegal grips which were awesome. Both had grip tape! On the MK III, I shortened the hammer spur slightly which helped lessen hammer bite. I always intended to buy a Cylinder & Slide, no bite hammer and trigger combo which is a great option. The forged frames are often preferred however I believe the cast frames have proven to be just as long lasting, if not more so and I wouldn't hesitate to buy a good pistol with either. I prefer the original mags or modern MecGar ones vs the Browning mouse trap ones.
Even though I don't currently have a BHP, I think if I ever found one with a trigger that I really liked then that would be my final 9mm for just plain fun shooting. I don't need a super light trigger, just a smooth and positive one.
Great looking pistol and review.


Sounds like you need to try a tuned up HP
I've got this Novaks which is a completely different beast than my other HPs

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Hey Canuck,

Did you send your BHP for the W. Novak work or did you buy the pistol as is?

He usually changes the stock thumb ambi safety to his own design. I see yours has the bobbed hammer.

The Novak BHP is one of the best understated custom guns I've seen and you're a lucky man to own one.
 
Hey Canuck,

Did you send your BHP for the W. Novak work or did you buy the pistol as is?

He usually changes the stock thumb ambi safety to his own design. I see yours has the bobbed hammer.

The Novak BHP is one of the best understated custom guns I've seen and you're a lucky man to own one.

I've noticed that - I bought this one NIB, as you see it, from the EE several years ago - history before that unknown - not sure why it sports the original.


Bought this sweet Novaks LW Commander from the same guy (that was an expensive month!!)

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Thanks, I’ve been a big HP fan for years and always preferred the older models, I had never considered owning a newer version until this one caught my eye.
- and apologies for hijacking your thread.
 
Thanks - and apologies for hijacking your thread.
No apology necessary :) all Hi Power discussion is appreciated!


I almost pulled the trigger on that one myself but went with a CZ75 instead. Nice looking gun, and great pictures! As you mention that the grip fits your small hands well, I probably made the right decision because I have quite large hands.
Thanks! The CZ75's grip is not that much bigger than the HP. I actually used Hi Power Pachmayr grips on my first CZ75 back in the 1980s. They needed a wee bit of a stretch to fit but worked pretty well.
 
I remember when those Novaks came up for sale some years ago and thought about the HP really hard. Nice guns.

I corresponded with Kurt Wickmann who worked at Novak about my own HP. He was the HP specialist there before going on his own. I am not sure he is still around but his HP's pop up on GunBroker from time to time.

As for the CZ, the grip is just big enough to be too big for me unless i use the thinnest aluminum grips on the gun. However, the HP fits my hands perfectly.
 
No apology necessary :) all Hi Power discussion is appreciated!



Thanks! The CZ75's grip is not that much bigger than the HP. I actually used Hi Power Pachmayr grips on my first CZ75 back in the 1980s. They needed a wee bit of a stretch to fit but worked pretty well.

Well, the CZ is on it's way as we speak, so I'll keep my fingers crossed that it fits me.
 
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