Why do we start to Hate some calibers?

thatmikeguy said:
The 270 came out in 1925. Not much really outperforms it 95 years later. We now have the 6.5cm. Not much different really.
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performance wise, pretty similar, however 6.5CM ammo is made for firearms that are a decade old or newer, where the 270 has some pretty old actions to take into consideration for factory ammo pressure. Plus 6.5CM is short action
 
Nyksta said:
performance wise, pretty similar, however 6.5CM ammo is made for firearms that are a decade old or newer, where the 270 has some pretty old actions to take into consideration for factory ammo pressure. Plus 6.5CM is short action
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The .270 Win saami max pressure in 65k psi, the 6.5 CM is 62k psi.
 
My wife bought me a 700 BDL in 30-06 for Christmas early in our marriage. She asked a friend what caliber I might want and through some discussions at work about hunting I mentioned that an '06 would be an option. I had been using a .303 British successfully for moose and deer and really hadn't thought about changing. But that new gun was pretty and went with me from then on with the .303 as a backup. As the years stacked up I bought another 700 in 7 mm-08 just because of shoulder care. Now the '06 is the backup.
I have had and parted with lots of other calibers but those two will never be on a hate list.
 
Myself, I like the progression we have seen with cartridges as of late - or better put, these newer rounds have the same speed, burn less powder, less brass trimming on most, and more 'inherent' accuracy due to case design/powder burn.
Basically anything with a 30 degree shoulder (maybe even the 40) perks my interest.
If I was collecting, the relics are cool - but I am not into that at all, other than having my GrGrandaddy's 1894 32sp octagon restored to look like the day it came out of the factory in 1904 - and it will always be in the family

I don't want to or would like driving a 30 year old truck that is slow, burns lots more fuel - when I could drive a newer truck that is much more efficient, comfortable, and clean burning. Its progression. Save the 30-30's, 303's, and all those relics for the collectors or Luddites, or, those with limited means to get into the sport.
 
chrismc said:
Myself, I like the progression we have seen with cartridges as of late - or better put, these newer rounds have the same speed, burn less powder, less brass trimming on most, and more 'inherent' accuracy due to case design/powder burn.
Basically anything with a 30 degree shoulder (maybe even the 40) perks my interest.
If I was collecting, the relics are cool - but I am not into that at all, other than having my GrGrandaddy's 1894 32sp octagon restored to look like the day it came out of the factory in 1904 - and it will always be in the family

I don't want to or would like driving a 30 year old truck that is slow, burns lots more fuel - when I could drive a newer truck that is much more efficient, comfortable, and clean burning. Its progression. Save the 30-30's, 303's, and all those relics for the collectors or Luddites, or, those with limited means to get into the sport.
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I don't buy into the "inherently accurate" case design, sharper shoulder can maximize capacity and increase case life, but that's all.
Weatherby has a sharper shoulder then anything else out there, and nobody ever claimed any inherent accuracy with that design.
I can get single digit ES loading for everything from 223 to 9.3x62 and none of my cartridges have 30 degree or sharper shoulders.
 
The modern cartridge design's tactic is to place a longer, heavier bullet optimally into a case where the rear taper line meets the start of the neck. This cartridge, with its optimal bullet seating arrangement, will still fit the action length of its predecessor. A tighter twist barrel using a heavier bullet along with proper bullet seating depth will make the modern cartridge ballistically superior and inherently more accurate. But old cartridges are fine too.
 
New inovation is great and drives the future. But someone once told me never hunt with a caliber thats not older than you are. Always kind of stuck.
 
I don't hate any cartridge or calibre. Hand me anything from .17 to .50cal I'll happily pull the trigger and put a smile on my face.

As for ownership, I try to keep things simple and efficient. .22LR, 7mm-08, and 30-06. If I can't get it done with one of those three then it doesn't need doing by me.
 
Dorian Gray said:
I've never been a fan of any Magnum cartridge. I've never seen the need for any of them for any of the types of hunting I've encountered. Now, that being said, I can certainly understand their desirability for mountain or plains game hunting. Flatter trajectory for longer range shots and still putting down a lot of energy when the bullet gets there is a desirable quality for those who live and hunt in those area's. I live in a very thickly forested region of the boreal. In my area, unless one hunts exclusively over open water or in recently cut area's, magnum cartridges don't offer much to the user except increased recoil, increased report and longer, more unwieldy barrels. To me, those qualities aren't desirable. But to others they're just fine. And that's okay. I'm glad we have options.

All that being said, I have a T3 in 300WSM with a 24" barrel coming in a few weeks. So maybe that rifle will change my mind about everything I've just written. And if it doesn't, I'll sell it or rebarrel it to 35 Sambar with a 20" tube, B&C stock, iron sights and a 2.5-8x36 VX-3i in quick detach rings. A heavy hitting little carbine like that would be right up my alley.
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Update to this post. The 300wsm moved on to a friend who wanted it more than me. But, I just got a T3 in 7mm Rem Mag in the mail yesterday. And something tells me that this one is gonna be a keeper. So I might be semi converted to the magnum owners club. Time will tell I suppose. :yingyang:
 
Dorian Gray said:
Update to this post. The 300wsm moved on to a friend who wanted it more than me. But, I just got a T3 in 7mm Rem Mag in the mail yesterday. And something tells me that this one is gonna be a keeper. So I might be semi converted to the magnum owners club. Time will tell I suppose. :yingyang:
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Magnum is just a word.
 
I don't hate any caliber but my plans are only for 22LR 12 ga 3030 308/76251 and 76239 and 7mm mag
All my stuff serves dual purposes / multiple uses and I have no need or interests in any other calibers and maybe 9mm or 45 acp in the future depending on bans
 
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