Short range thumper suggestions.

The only thing That won’t check my boxes about these latest suggestions are the weight issue. I want it to be under 7lbs for sure.

Seein' as you take critters in close proximity, ye could always go the .44 mag route. The Ruger 77/44 series are super for hiking over hill & dale and shoot good to boot. With a compact scope, the buggers hit 6 lbs and change easy enough. Good fer anything that walks around here. ;)
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That’s the easiest route- change the optic. Although I’ve used a Leupold 1.5-5 enough to know there are much better options these days.

Second easiest route is buy the Ruger Scout with the Tupperware stock

Sacrilege.... there is and never will be a better scope than the Leupold 1-5-5
But that's just my opinion.

JJ
 
OP, I don't see you going from that Kimber .284 to anything at Trade-Ex... you are going to be antsy with any Husky etc... Oh, they are good solid rifles, just very (too) different from what you are shooting now, although they do both go "bang." I think the whole "thumper" concept is defunct, although I am just as guilty as anyone for perpetuating the idea. Any cartridge with sufficient energy and an appropriate bullet is capable of being a "short range" or "thick bush" hunting rifle. Having said that, I do have a fondness for .35 cal cartridges, I like the bigger bullets that they throw, but not for some misguided belief that they can "cut brush" all the way to the target... I just like the effect of a big bullet at decent speed on game animals. I don't think that you need a second rifle that does essentially the same thing in the same way that your .284 does... so I think I would personally create a different shooting experience for yourself with this second rifle. I would look at .30 cal to .375 cal rifles, heavier than your Kimber, but compact and handy, and shoot 200 to 250 grain SP's out of it... top it with a Leupold VX-3 1.5-5X20 or perhaps a VX-R 2-7 giving you crosshairs and red dot options. Any cartridge .308 and up offers 200+ grain options and in reality a 200 grain SP from a .308 is essentially the same as a 200 grain SP from a .358... and it is much easier to find a platform in .308 if you want to buy off the shelf. Really this all points to a rifle like the Ruger GSR .308 Win... loaded with a 200 or 220 grain SP or RN it gives you the experience you are looking for, right out of the box.

I shoot a pair of Ruger rifles in .358 Win that fit the bill, but are no longer made and would be difficult to source... these are the M77 MKII Frontier with 16.5" barrel and M77 MKII RS carbine with 18.5" barrel.

I wish I could find a frontier in 358 like that.
 
For your little blacktails try 30.0 grains H4895 under the 140 SP of your choice... I built that reduced load for the kids of a couple friends but we discovered that it was incredibly accurate in 4 rifles and did a really good job at dispatching deer cleanly....would be a terrific and pleasant load for your little left-coast deer.

PM explanation on the way as we speak.
 
https://ruger.com/products/scoutRifle/specSheets/6829.html

Just Buy it and mount up a Scout scope on the rail with Quick Detachable rings or Mount up a REG scope on the Ruger Receiver with Detachable rings and go shoot it .
I found some 220 gr sp round nose bullets i'm gonna load up for SHORT range Bear thumpers OR ! lol RJ+

PS : THERE is ABSOLUTELY Nothing Wrong with the RUGER SYN stock either and its lighter then a MAC is too !
 
Too late. Just purchased the Vx6 1-6 from the EE. Now to choose something to mount it on!
Turning my 783 into a 350 rem sounds ok. I’ll ask IBI if they can get anything. Doubt it. Not much for gunsmiths in chilliwack.

I’m quite surprised how many suggestions for Rugers. I guess I just haven’t given them enough chance
 
Too late. Just purchased the Vx6 1-6 from the EE....

I’m quite surprised how many suggestions for Rugers. I guess I just haven’t given them enough chance

Great scope choice...

Ruger does a better job than any other company at listening to hunters/shooters and creating unique and useful platforms, pistols, rimfire and centerfire.
 
Here’s my dilemma. Bought and put together what I thought to be the perfect hunting rifle. Kimber mountain accent rechambered to 284 win with a Vx6hd 3-18 on top. Very nice and light to hike with but turns out where I had my best chances last year where I live I was always under 200 yards. More like 30-80y. So I’ve decided to start over. Here’s what I’m thinking. Short barrel as in 16-18”. With a brake. Light weight setup as well. Around 7lb with glass. 1-6 power scope. Caliber could be .308, 30-06, 338-06. 375? I handliad so open to anything. Fiberglass stock. Or similar. Any suggestions? Thanks

What are you hunting for ?Blacktail and black bear ?
 
Here’s my dilemma. Bought and put together what I thought to be the perfect hunting rifle. Kimber mountain accent rechambered to 284 win with a Vx6hd 3-18 on top. Very nice and light to hike with but turns out where I had my best chances last year where I live I was always under 200 yards. More like 30-80y. So I’ve decided to start over. Here’s what I’m thinking. Short barrel as in 16-18”. With a brake. Light weight setup as well. Around 7lb with glass. 1-6 power scope. Caliber could be .308, 30-06, 338-06. 375? I handliad so open to anything. Fiberglass stock. Or similar. Any suggestions? Thanks

What are you hunting for ?Blacktail and black bear ?
 
I’m quite surprised how many suggestions for Rugers. I guess I just haven’t given them enough chance

I REALLY like my new Scout rifle - i don't like the WOOD stock ones BUT these SYN 6.2 lb ers with a Brake are KOOL ! Get the stock lenght ajusted just right and its throws up GREAT ! I did the trigger and lubed the action - It functions WELL - The 220 gr ers will GREAT Deer - Bear Smashers ! RJ
 
Because the bullet is moving faster? What if the deer is moving and I’m 20y but I shoot 3” off. Then which one drops faster?

3" shouldn't make a difference. Gut shot is gutshot and if you hit them around the edges game can take a lot of lead. From what I've seen any cup and core (read cheap) bullet going north of 2500fps will work very well on deer. Drop speed or use a "premium" bullet and results will be slower, don't take this to mean they don't work, dead is dead, the results just aren't as dramatic.

At the ranges you are talking the 22-250 drops deer like they were hit by lightning. They will typically run if you hit them with the 9.3x57.

On deer the 30-06 and similar with cup and core bullets is devastating at close range.
 
^ I can back that last statement up. 2 years ago, big whitetail doe at 20 yards, crumpled her on the spot. Upon opening her up, 1/4 of the heart was gone.
 
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