Titegroup Replacement

Vihtavuori is great powder but I haven't seen it do anything to justify the price.

I sense it is an awesome powder but I notice that its part of the same company (Nammo group) as Berger / Lapua etc which is quality gear but there are certainly no bargains to be had.

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Google powder spillage in dillon 650
There are lots of fixes for it; it's most common in the 9mm.
I cut a little off the spring below the detent ball below the shell plate;
ceramic balls are also available. Worked for me.
And I would stick with titegroup, Henry doesn't charge hazmat fees.
 
Lube your brass with Hornady one shot, don't need to wipe it off after and makes handle buttery smooth, brass just glides in for resizing.
On station number 4 (seating station), stop the brass with your left hand with a bullet waiting in your fingers, this stations often comes to a sudden stop and is prone to spillage.

I have loaded more than 800 rounds per hour with my Dillon auto primer filler and high motivation, and yes I have had my share of spillage.
And have used VVN320 and titegroup, the powder change will not achieve what you are wishing for, you simply need to get that machine operating smoother.
Since ditching wet tumble to go back to dry tumble, and using case lube over it, I can go crazy fast and everything is ultra smooth.
 
Yeah tight grouo is really cheap. Rustywood in BC has it for 36$ a pound

Okay shooter; Where is that? In middleton? I think a guy i work with buys 338 winmag ammo there.
 
Yeah tight grouo is really cheap. Rustywood in BC has it for 36$ a pound

Okay shooter; Where is that? In the valley? I think a guy i work with buys 338 winmag ammo there.

Yeah, The Irving in Middleton, also a sister store of Lequille Country Store, it has some powder/ammo in the back cabinets.
 
Yeah, The Irving in Middleton, also a sister store of Lequille Country Store, it has some powder/ammo in the back cabinets.

Yeah ive been told to check it out many of times. Maybe next time im up that way ill stop in. ( is the same distance as halifax or lantz for me) all the powder selling stores are an hour away lol

Thanks!!
 
Go once or twice a year and stock up.

Too bad you don't have a Bass Pro near buy, I buy a lot of powder from them (price matched).

I do lol. Its 1 hour away in dartmouth, thats where i get most of my relaoding stuff now. It opened 2 years ago.

I also have about 30 pounds of powder total so its not that i need it, i just like trying new things. I keep it pretty stocked up. But good to know about the price match
 
I don't have years and years of reloading experience but I started out using titegroup for 9mm, switched to CFE Pistol just over a year ago just to try it out and never went back. Very happy with it for my current guns. It seems cleaner also, the titegroup always left a soot ring on my brass.
 
I don't have years and years of reloading experience but I started out using titegroup for 9mm, switched to CFE Pistol just over a year ago just to try it out and never went back. Very happy with it for my current guns. It seems cleaner also, the titegroup always left a soot ring on my brass.

My brass has always been really dirty and I'm sure its due to the Titegroup.

I did a few hundred rounds today and the front of the gun was covered in soot by the end.
 
My brass has always been really dirty and I'm sure its due to the Titegroup.

I did a few hundred rounds today and the front of the gun was covered in soot by the end.

That is a common thing with lots of powders. Usually when shooting cartridges loaded significantly less than max.
 
I used to use Titegroup for my 9mm , switched to V N320 a few thousand rounds ago. I find it is easier to get accurate more consistent loads and seems to burn cleaner. Worth the extra cost to me.
 
To date I have used Titegroup exclusively for 9mm and I am almost out.

I have found a load thats works well in my gun and would consider just buying more Titegroup but as it is a flake type powder it is easy to spill out of the case when loading (if I pull the handle too aggressively a flake or two seem to spill out from the inertia). Not a massive deal but its got me wondering of there are any better alternatives out there.

A quick search suggests Winchester 231 or Vihtavuori N320. Are these good bets for 9mm?

I think Winchester 231 is ball powder but some say it is dirty. Vihtavuori N320 by contrast has a lot of reviews saying how clean it is. I think it is a stick style powder so I wonder if it meters well? It does seems quite a bit more pricey than Titegroup too.

If anyone has used Winchester 231 or Vihtavuori N320 I` like to hear your opinions. If it make a difference my current Titegroup load is 3.3grs with a 147gr bullet.

I don't find W231 that dirty.

I have been using HP38 (same powder as W231); I find it very clean actually; and use it in 9mm, .40, .45 and most recently in .38. Works well in all 4, and is soft shooting with target loads.
 
I used to use Titegroup for my 9mm , switched to V N320 a few thousand rounds ago. I find it is easier to get accurate more consistent loads and seems to burn cleaner. Worth the extra cost to me.

Can you describe your testing method for accuracy between the two powders? Did you use a Ransom rest?

Darrell over at the BE forum does a ton of testing and to date he believes that TG is one of the most, if not the most, accurate powders when used to load 9mm. Here's a very small sample of his data:

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Just recently tried Alliant Sport Pistol, economical alternative to N320, meters well and clean, low temp. so recommend when using those polymer bullets. Less powder charge than n320 for the samee PF, Not easy to find because its new, but was able to get from Lawry’s and Western Metal. Maybe you can request your LGS to stock them.
 
Can you describe your testing method for accuracy between the two powders? Did you use a Ransom rest?

Darrell over at the BE forum does a ton of testing and to date he believes that TG is one of the most, if not the most, accurate powders when used to load 9mm. Here's a very small sample of his data:

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Sorry should have been clearer, by “more accurate and consistent loads” I was referring to the amount of powder going into the case. I found it easier to get the the precise 4.0 grains I load for my 124gr RN. I found the TG was more inclined to vary by .1 or so gr with my setup. Have not done any detailed testing of accuracy when shooting the different powders. Most of my accuracy issues lie with the shooter!!
 
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