Ducks Unlimited vs angry gunowners
- Thread starter scott_r
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I'm not looking to blame anyone. What I don't like is a charity acting on my behalf as my voice as a hunter, while saying they don't have a voice, and that they never did. It's complete bull. It's clear they've taken the stance of we will do what ever makes us the most money even throwing those who built us at grass roots levels under the bus. If they wanted to avoid this mess their Sask CEO should of not put himself into a conflict of interest. No one and I mean no one gets to recuse themselves from a CEO or board position in the public eye. Those are not simply volunteer positions, he is not simply a individual and many individuals are viewing it that way.
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Allow me to repost the last couple of items from the DU Canada Facebook page:
Yesterday:
Ducks Unlimited Canada
21 hrs ·
Let’s be clear: DUC was founded by hunters. Waterfowl numbers were plummeting, and they organized around a clear goal: to conserve and restore Canadian habitat, where much of North America’s waterfowl breed.
Our focus and commitment is the same today. We’re proud of our role—to conserve the habitat that waterfowl and wildlife need to thrive. Our conservation success is our contribution to the hunting community and can’t be overstated. No other organization comes close to conserving as much Canadian wetland habitat as DUC. And today, waterfowl populations are strong.
Ducks Unlimited Canada
February 5 at 3:46 PM ·
The current firearms issue is a milestone in the ongoing debate about Canada’s relationship with firearms. We trust Canadians will exercise their individual rights as they see fit. For our part, we’ll continue to be guided by our mission: to ensure the habitats that support waterfowl, wildlife and people, are here for future generations.
Thank you to all who support conservation in Canada. We invite you to contact us with your questions by emailing communications@ducks.ca.
Exercise your individual rights, the ones you don't have, and don't expect any help from us. To me, they are speaking with a forked tongue and the overall message is to F-off and not bother them. OK then.
And their statement about being one of the foremost conservation forced in Canada? No sorry that is us, the people paying for it here through licencing fees that fund provincial and federal enforcement and so forth.
Yesterday:
Ducks Unlimited Canada
21 hrs ·
Let’s be clear: DUC was founded by hunters. Waterfowl numbers were plummeting, and they organized around a clear goal: to conserve and restore Canadian habitat, where much of North America’s waterfowl breed.
Our focus and commitment is the same today. We’re proud of our role—to conserve the habitat that waterfowl and wildlife need to thrive. Our conservation success is our contribution to the hunting community and can’t be overstated. No other organization comes close to conserving as much Canadian wetland habitat as DUC. And today, waterfowl populations are strong.
Ducks Unlimited Canada
February 5 at 3:46 PM ·
The current firearms issue is a milestone in the ongoing debate about Canada’s relationship with firearms. We trust Canadians will exercise their individual rights as they see fit. For our part, we’ll continue to be guided by our mission: to ensure the habitats that support waterfowl, wildlife and people, are here for future generations.
Thank you to all who support conservation in Canada. We invite you to contact us with your questions by emailing communications@ducks.ca.
Exercise your individual rights, the ones you don't have, and don't expect any help from us. To me, they are speaking with a forked tongue and the overall message is to F-off and not bother them. OK then.
And their statement about being one of the foremost conservation forced in Canada? No sorry that is us, the people paying for it here through licencing fees that fund provincial and federal enforcement and so forth.
- Location
- Eastern Ontario
DU is basically saying we support the building and maintaining of more roads and the government is talking about banning cars. Won't it be wonderful to have these beautiful well maintained roads to drive on? we can make that happen if you give us money. Nice roads are pointless if cars are banned
- Location
- Eastern Ontario
I retract my former statement that wetlands are not important
What the heck will DU do once guns are banned and ducks overpopulate and start destroying the very wetlands they are trying to save. Just have to look at the mess the cormorants are doing to the eco system.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/double-crested-cormorant-hunting-mnrf-staff-concerns-1.5053685
I have to admit that over the years I have thought that DU was really just getting Canadian land for duck habitats, so that Americans have lots of Canadian ducks to shoot at. Not sure where that came from, could have been a conversation in a store, or with some hunters, not sure, but seeing it mentioned again does sort of make sense... up here they are hippies just buying land with other people's money (that they then own), and it's mainly to benefit Americans (as so many things do). It would be interesting to see how the business structure works. What I mean is, if it's an American company, then Americans own acres and acres of Canadian wetlands, and if Canadians lose their guns, well ####in-A, more ducks for the owners (Americans). Sort of seems like they've simply been using Canadians to help them buy land, and screw us when it comes down to it.
Now that said, I only hunt orange round ducks, but it does sort of make sense in the context of that they are saying to Canadian gun owners (basically thanks for the land, please go #### yourself, oh and feel free to drop a tip in the jar as you walk yourself out).
I don't know as if they wanted anyone to really scrutinize their business. Bad move on their part no matter how you look at it. I mean, they could even have just put a link to the petition on their site (because in the end the Turd doesn't give two ####s about petitions).
Just my $.02 on it, I don't have any sources, it just seems to make sense. Maybe we need to build a big wall with a huge net to keep all the Canadian ducks in Canada
Now that said, I only hunt orange round ducks, but it does sort of make sense in the context of that they are saying to Canadian gun owners (basically thanks for the land, please go #### yourself, oh and feel free to drop a tip in the jar as you walk yourself out).
I don't know as if they wanted anyone to really scrutinize their business. Bad move on their part no matter how you look at it. I mean, they could even have just put a link to the petition on their site (because in the end the Turd doesn't give two ####s about petitions).
Just my $.02 on it, I don't have any sources, it just seems to make sense. Maybe we need to build a big wall with a huge net to keep all the Canadian ducks in Canada
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
And... so what? It’s not like they’re exporting waterfowl and leaving us with less. Or totally ignoring the fact Canadians hunt the preserves too. Does it really matter when in the end, it’s still conservation and wetland preservation.
Would you rather see less wildlife and wetlands, just to spite our neighbours? I’m happy to accept any benefits and forward progress on conservation.
Gun owners frustrate me admittedly with our narrow-mindedness and bickering. It seems many of us only see the world in black and white, and are incapable of considering compromises for the better. It’s a hard position one way or the other, and expected of everyone. The truth is life’s grey.
I read very little sinister in that, I read that they’re focusing on their mandate and declining to comment on other matters. Which is entirely reasonable. As for licence fees supporting conservation it isn’t nearly enough, and we need organizations like Ducks. Here in BC I’ve been advocating for far higher licence fees, especially for non-residents, and for all that funding to go directly to conservation not general revenue. Also, so long as wildlife is in decline country wide as it is in Canada, we need every friend of wildlife we can get.
indeed
https://bcwf.bc.ca/initiatives/your-firearms-rights/
How Important are your firearms to you?
The BC Wildlife Federation Firearms and Recreational Sports Shooting Committees are asking you to stand up for your firearm rights. The committees have outlined several steps you can take to let Canadian Members of Parliament know why you don’t support firearms bans.
The minority federal government has promised to prohibit and confiscate semi-automatic long guns. Firearms Committee Chair Gary Mauser, calls the buyback plan a “multi-billion-dollar boondoggle.”
How can you take action?
Use the BCWF template letter below and email Minister Blair, your MP, and opposition critics.
Letters are more powerful if you customize them with the reasons why your access to firearms is essential to your lifestyle and values. You can edit the letter below and customize it to your own experience.
We encourage our members to not just submit this electronic form, but to also print it out and mail it to your representatives. When addressing your own letter to the Minister please keep in mind:
Address Minister Blair with his official title – The Hon. Bill Blair, MP, Public Safety Minister
No postage is required for mailing MPs or Senators.
The address for MPs is House of Commons, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6
Glad Ive been supporting BCWF now....
But I guess as a BCWF supporter that doesnt count because I don't hunt enough as an arbitrary and subjective metric..
Speaking of divisiveness in the gun community.... something about gun owners not supporting other gun owners ... lol
Assuming people dont support conservation is a pathetic argument.
Just sent off an email to the Manitoba Wildlife Federation requesting if they would be able to post the petition on their site or email members as they have been supporting the firearms community.
MWF articles
http://mwf.mb.ca/2019/12/07/gun-violence-press-release/
http://mwf.mb.ca/2018/11/01/firearm-ban-input/
Good day Sir or Madam, I am contacting you today in regards to the Lieberal forced firearm ban by way of OIC. I have recently come across several of your articles and I am honored to have you in the corner of the firearms community, as one of the few Wildlife organizations championing for this cause. I have also shared your articles on Canadiangunnutz (CGN) forum for all too see your support and efforts. I would like to ask you today if you would be willing and able to post an article or email your members in regards to petition E-2341 set in motion by MP Glen Motz of Alberta. I am very appreciative of your efforts on this matter, and hope if you are able to pass this along.
Please take a moment to sign and share this important petition regarding the impending lieberal gun ban. There are no age restrictions, Thank you, all the best. Pew, pew
https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-2341
Please check your email/spam/junk to confirm signing of petition.
Your signature doesn't count if you don't confirm the email by clicking the link in it.
Thanking you in advance for your time and consideration .
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MWF articles
http://mwf.mb.ca/2019/12/07/gun-violence-press-release/
http://mwf.mb.ca/2018/11/01/firearm-ban-input/
Good day Sir or Madam, I am contacting you today in regards to the Lieberal forced firearm ban by way of OIC. I have recently come across several of your articles and I am honored to have you in the corner of the firearms community, as one of the few Wildlife organizations championing for this cause. I have also shared your articles on Canadiangunnutz (CGN) forum for all too see your support and efforts. I would like to ask you today if you would be willing and able to post an article or email your members in regards to petition E-2341 set in motion by MP Glen Motz of Alberta. I am very appreciative of your efforts on this matter, and hope if you are able to pass this along.
Please take a moment to sign and share this important petition regarding the impending lieberal gun ban. There are no age restrictions, Thank you, all the best. Pew, pew
https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-2341
Please check your email/spam/junk to confirm signing of petition.
Your signature doesn't count if you don't confirm the email by clicking the link in it.
Thanking you in advance for your time and consideration .
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i agree with you Angus except the fact that the president of DU is sitting on a committee politically involved ....
nowarningshot
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Exactly the point. Play football....dont take a knee, or wear gear that says "diversity is our strength". If you want to be a conservationist i will support you, step into a political role; get judged by your politics.
