Ducks Unlimited vs angry gunowners

Something I never thought would happen here; the preponderance of posters shilling for the Liberal government idea of gun control through division of firearms types. My respect for some has plummeted a great deal. I think this forum at least is done.
 
If I find you a single weather station I’m giving you utterly useless information for a global perspective, as I’m receiving in return. You’re asking me to find information that fits your argument, and it doesn’t work that way, especially for global phenomena.

It's because you can't.

If the 5 hottest years are since 2010 , the heavy majority of the world's weather stations will show 2010-2019 being warmer than 1910-1919. I"ve asked you to find me one, it should be a slam dunk.

But you won't because it's "utterly useless".
 
I recall viewing a bar-graph as such, however it was dated 600 BC to 2016, that indicated a .89% of 1 degree Celsius increase in temperature. Moreover, there is no evidence of extreme temperature increase, many models have proved that global warming has been embellished. Left-wing extremists have relinquished their “global warming” war cry to “climate change,” hence, lack of scientific evidence of global warming. Therefore, floods, fires, hurricanes etc. Is now climate change, their new embellished war cry.

It’s going to have to get harder than that, look global, as I already said, not for single points. This is every source on the NOAA’s database combined, this is how you see trends. Pick any month you want I just stayed with mid year by default.

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It's because you can't.

If the 5 hottest years are since 2010 , the heavy majority of the world's weather stations will show 2010-2019 being warmer than 1910-1919. I"ve asked you to find me one, it should be a slam dunk.

But you won't because it's "utterly useless".

Can’t be bothered indeed, find me a global set of recordings that indicate cooling from 1910 to 2019 and that’s a slam dunk for you.
 
Can’t be bothered indeed, find me a global set of recordings that indicate cooling from 1910 to 2019 and that’s a slam dunk for you.
No-one is crying global cooling. Show everyone evidence of extreme climate change, which is the new motto of the UN, et al.
 
Amen to this. I wonder how many have actually read the terms of the petition. It isn't about hunting or the guns most hunters use. It's about a ban on so called "military style assault firearms " which the self styled experts on this forum and others interpret to mean all guns. It's also about the buy back program and the use of OIC. Sadly the last word on an Internet forum (and apparently the right one) belongs to the person who stays at the key board the longest.

Look up New Zealand's recent prohibitions. Benelli, Beretta, Browning, even 870. Its never enough, another nibble, big bite, bureaucracy obstruction, storage laws, red flag.

Hunting ducks with bow and arrows. Until someone thinks of that.

Look at whats been lost. No benefit to safety. A gun is a gun, its the mind that pulls the trigger, action type is irrelevant. Once the semi duck guns, its pumps, high speed assault lever guns, high capacity 22's, evil airsoft.

Draw a line, take a stand. This one works for me.
 
Look up New Zealand's recent prohibitions. Benelli, Beretta, Browning, even 870. Its never enough, another nibble, big bite, bureaucracy obstruction, storage laws, red flag.

Hunting ducks with bow and arrows. Until someone thinks of that.

Look at whats been lost. No benefit to safety. A gun is a gun, its the mind that pulls the trigger, action type is irrelevant. Once the semi duck guns, its pumps, high speed assault lever guns, high capacity 22's, evil airsoft.

Draw a line, take a stand. This one works for me.

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Prove that 2010-2019 was warmer than 1910-1919.

No-one is crying global cooling. Show everyone evidence of extreme climate change, which is the new motto of the UN, et al.

Already have with extremely large and vast data sets, the challenge is you can’t change minds that have been made and it’s seldom worth the effort. Many don’t even understand one degree is massive in a global context and puts huge amounts of area previously on the net freeze side to net melt.

Due to fixed perspectives and an unwillingness to look at the big picture, we’re on the path we’re on and unfortunately our species is too stubborn to change, so it’s rather a lost cause at this point. Kind of like CGNs vilification of a certain conservation organization. I know from previous arguments I’m not engaged with open minds in much of this discussion unfortunately, both climate and conservation orgs vs gun control. And yet I can respect a dissenting opinion, I’ve simply seen to much evidence to agree with it though I once was skeptical.
 
Already have with extremely large and vast data sets, the challenge is you can’t change minds that have been made and it’s seldom worth the effort. Many don’t even understand one degree is massive in a global context and puts huge amounts of area previously on the net freeze side to net melt.

Due to fixed perspectives and an unwillingness to look at the big picture, we’re on the path we’re on and unfortunately our species is too stubborn to change, so it’s rather a lost cause at this point. Kind of like CGNs vilification of a certain conservation organization. I know from previous arguments I’m not engaged with open minds in much of this discussion unfortunately, both climate and conservation orgs vs gun control. And yet I can respect a dissenting opinion, I’ve simply seen to much evidence to agree with it though I once was skeptical.

Yet you haven't done the simple thing I asked claiming it a waste of time, more like you can't because your claims aren't actually based on science.

In 1910 there wasn't a single weather station in Antartica or the Canadian Arctic Islands, and neither Mongolia nor the Congo. Yet you claim proof of global temperatures.

Here's a map of the weather stations in Africa in 1910, I'd hardly call it a vast dataset.
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Already have with extremely large and vast data sets, the challenge is you can’t change minds that have been made and it’s seldom worth the effort. Many don’t even understand one degree is massive in a global context and puts huge amounts of area previously on the net freeze side to net melt.

Due to fixed perspectives and an unwillingness to look at the big picture, we’re on the path we’re on and unfortunately our species is too stubborn to change, so it’s rather a lost cause at this point. Kind of like CGNs vilification of a certain conservation organization. I know from previous arguments I’m not engaged with open minds in much of this discussion unfortunately, both climate and conservation orgs vs gun control. And yet I can respect a dissenting opinion, I’ve simply seen to much evidence to agree with it though I once was skeptical.
You just proved my premise as to the embellishment of the former “global warming” fearmongering. As you stated that one degree is massive on a global scale. If I was to select the root of most world issues, it would be that the earth is grossly over populated with humans. ie: more humans, more pollution. Acid rain was a hoax, followed by global warming, then climate change, last and probably not least “extreme climate change.” Liberalism is a disease.
 
Yet you haven't done the simple thing I asked claiming it a waste of time, more like you can't because your claims aren't actually based on science.

In 1910 there wasn't a single weather station in Antartica or the Canadian Arctic Islands, and neither Mongolia nor the Congo. Yet you claim proof of global temperatures.

Here's a map of the weather stations in Africa in 1910, I'd hardly call it a vast dataset.
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I see more than one dot, and they appear to be spread over a small distance. When you take that, which is just one very remote continent at the time, and expand it globally then exponentially add data as years go on. Well... it trumps Alberta and Saskatchewan a bit, pun intended.

All kidding aside that map is more impressive than I would have expected and would provide an awful lot of data. Especially compared to your interest in singular locations in a global climate.
 
The thing about climate change is.... it's true. Climate change is real and undeniable and it's been that way since the big bang.

The issue I have is with the scientists who have sold out the truth and bent to the politicians and power brokers who are now using climate change as a way of shifting political ideologies, consolidating power and lining select pockets with tax payer's money.
 
I see more than one dot, and they appear to be spread over a small distance. When you take that, which is just one very remote continent at the time, and expand it globally then exponentially add data as years go on. Well... it trumps Alberta and Saskatchewan a bit, pun intended.

All kidding aside that map is more impressive than I would have expected and would provide an awful lot of data. Especially compared to your interest in singular locations in a global climate.

My interest isn't in a single location, but if 5 of the 10 warmest years were since 2010 as you claim, then 2010-2019 would be warmer than 1910-1919 in most places, yet you won't produce a single weather station that says this, yet claim it is proven.

I know you can't do it, because it isn't true.
 
Yep. I agree.
Divided we fall.

Well you could always switch sides

All DU had to do was post a notice about it with no bias one way or the other and there would be no issue.
Instead they hid behind excuses and threw gun owners under the bus to keep the govt money providers happy
 
DUC should focus on successful habitat conservation.
Let the Canadian gun rights lobby support the current e-petition imo.

So if you could go ahead and tell me where I said that DU should be lobbying for gun rights as I asked in the post you quoted that'd be great.
 
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