Ontario moose ... New Rules

$35 licence+ $15 application fee =$50 +$150(cow)$200(bull) tag fee.

Yes you pay $15 application fee to enter the lottery and each year supposedly you get closer to drawing a tag (if you live long enough) and you only pay the $35 licence fee if you accept the tag because you want to hunt or if you plan to hunt with a successful tag holder.
 
$35 licence+ $15 application fee =$50 +$150(cow)$200(bull) tag fee.

But if you’re unsuccessful, just $15.

If you’re successful, you’ll pay another $35 for the license that year, then split the cost of the tag with your group. ($15 + $35 + (200/8) = $75 Total)
 
I'm fine with the new system, but if they are still offering cow and calf tags, they should be more $$ than the bull tags, to discourage killing the breeding stock.
 
I read that you do not need to reapply if you didnt draw. Does that mean 15 bucks a year or 15 until you draw?

You need to enter the draw yearly to accumulate points, but won't lose points if you skip a year. Only drawing and accepting the moose tag will eliminate points.

The # of points we will start with, is the # of years you applied for and did not get a tag, dating back to your last drawn tag. Previous surplus tags will count as your last tag, if you obtained one.

There was supposed to be a 2nd draw after the primary, so will see if that still applies.
 
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But if you’re unsuccessful, just $15.

If you’re successful, you’ll pay another $35 for the license that year, then split the cost of the tag with your group. ($15 + $35 + (200/8) = $75 Total)
I read it as $35 then $15 then $30/$150/$200 if picked.
“Each of those tags would have their own cost, with a bull tag priced the highest at $200. A hunter who buys a $35 licence, pays the $15 application fee and is who is successful getting a bull tag will have a total cost of $250.”
 
$15 to apply,will need to apply every year to get points built up.plus $35 if you want to hunt as part of a group so that is no cheaper than before. then you add another $200 for a bull tag that adds up to a 5 time price increase.plus no guaranted group size so you can't plan ahead to book lodging
 
I read it as $35 then $15 then $30/$150/$200 if picked.
“Each of those tags would have their own cost, with a bull tag priced the highest at $200. A hunter who buys a $35 licence, pays the $15 application fee and is who is successful getting a bull tag will have a total cost of $250.”

$15 to apply for the draw. $35 if you buy the licence, whether you drew a tag, or are hunting with someone who did. $200 if you drew and accepted a bull tag.
 
I am disappointed that they will continue to offer calf tags.

As Canadian Hunter 312 said, with declining populations, is it really a good idea to shoot the recruitment? When I have mentioned this previously, some folks have replied that calves have a fairly low survival rate, so if you take a calf, it might not have made it anyways... My reply to that is, if you shoot the calf, it most certainly won't reach adulthood to reproduce OR enable you to take an adult moose!

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Jay

I gave up moose hunting 22 years ago, but at the time, for a lot of guys (won't call them hunters) a calf tag was an excuse to shoot an adult and go look for a tag. If no tag was found, the moose stayed in the bush.

A lot of guys tell me the QC system is much simpler, and their populations seem quite healthy, but I have no idea how it works nowadays.
 
$15 to apply,will need to apply every year to get points built up.plus $35 if you want to hunt as part of a group so that is no cheaper than before. then you add another $200 for a bull tag that adds up to a 5 time price increase.plus no guaranted group size so you can't plan ahead to book lodging

In current system, if I apply for 10 years before i draw a tag, it would cost $520. Under the new system, it would be $15 x10 years, + $35, + $200, = $385.

Large groups are no longer dominating the tags, but if you have a group, its not hard to figure out how to get a tag each year.
 
In my opinion one issue I would like to see changed and maybe it is planned, is tag transfers.
Should not be allowed. Whomever draws the tag gets it. If they don’t go, well then too bad. No tag at camp.

As madtrapper points out in post 10, the system is abused. Terribly.

I used to know a group that hunted an an area with guaranteed group size of 3 got a tag.
Buddies wife, son, daughter, uncle you name them they all applied for tags.
Whoever got the tag transferred it to buddy, because the rest of them never went.
Legal, yes. Moral? Not a chance.
 
In my opinion one issue I would like to see changed and maybe it is planned, is tag transfers.
Should not be allowed. Whomever draws the tag gets it. If they don’t go, well then too bad. No tag at camp.

As madtrapper points out in post 10, the system is abused. Terribly.

I used to know a group that hunted an an area with guaranteed group size of 3 got a tag.
Buddies wife, son, daughter, uncle you name them they all applied for tags.
Whoever got the tag transferred it to buddy, because the rest of them never went.
Legal, yes. Moral? Not a chance.

There will be no tag transfers, as there are no more group draws, only individuals. You can still hunt in a group, just no group draws.
 
In my opinion one issue I would like to see changed and maybe it is planned, is tag transfers.
Should not be allowed. Whomever draws the tag gets it. If they don’t go, well then too bad. No tag at camp.

As madtrapper points out in post 10, the system is abused. Terribly.

I used to know a group that hunted an an area with guaranteed group size of 3 got a tag.
Buddies wife, son, daughter, uncle you name them they all applied for tags.
Whoever got the tag transferred it to buddy, because the rest of them never went.
Legal, yes. Moral? Not a chance.

I see no issue with tag transfers, but that would require running the hunt "right".....

I fail to see why Ontario runs the whitetail hunt the way they do, yet completely flip flop on their conservation stance when it comes to moose.... Whitetails are flourishing here where they should and moose are struggling.....
 
I see no issue with tag transfers, but that would require running the hunt "right".....

I fail to see why Ontario runs the whitetail hunt the way they do, yet completely flip flop on their conservation stance when it comes to moose.... Whitetails are flourishing here where they should and moose are struggling.....

You don't see an issue with having half your friends and family buy a license and apply for a tag when they have no intention of hunting?
Just so they can transfer any tag they get to the 1-2 people who go hunting..

Would you see an issue with hundreds of non hunters applying for tags and then just not going, just so YOU can't get a tag?
It is effectively the same
 
You don't see an issue with having half your friends and family buy a license and apply for a tag when they have no intention of hunting?
Just so they can transfer any tag they get to the 1-2 people who go hunting..

Would you see an issue with hundreds of non hunters applying for tags and then just not going, just so YOU can't get a tag?
It is effectively the same

I see no issue with that if it's set up right and everyone gets bull chance only with a draw for calf and cow....
 
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