18.6 inch AR barrels with integrated muzzle brake/flash hider

taeish said:
why not just contact hm defense directly? they seem to have a working model already... albiet at reduced length
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It would be easier to get it done Canadian $$. With the whole ITAR thing slacked off, who knows.

Canadian or even Faxon to do an extended would be the easiest.

HM defense, as far as I know don’t ship north or don’t have an export permit. I believe their barrels are 14.5 and 16”s.
 
Oh sweet jesus. Go retake your PAL class.

A semiauto shotgun with a barrel of 470mm or more is not restricted. 470mm is 18.50"
A semiauto shotgun with a barrel less than 470mm is restricted.
ANY shotgun with a barrel cut to less than 452 or 17.99" is prohibited.


Barrel length

(2) For the purposes of this Part, the length of a barrel of a firearm is

(a) in the case of a revolver, the distance from the muzzle of the barrel to the breach end immediately in front of the cylinder, and

(b) in any other case, the distance from the muzzle of the barrel to and including the chamber,

but does not include the length of any component, part or accessory including any component, part or accessory designed or intended to suppress the muzzle flash or reduce recoil.
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Airborn_69 said:
18” shotgun barrel, pretty long NR..

Pretty sure everyone knows to remain NR with a semi auto centrefire rifle barrel you have to be above 18.55”

You’re a piece of work that’s for sure..
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Wouldnt be CGN without a great deal of the comments being about a completely irrelevant topic lol. It's perfectly legal guys, there are guns that already employ such barrels in Canada but theyre either custom or proprietary designs. I digress, and concur that a run of 100 or so would sell out very quickly.
 
apexanimal said:
Wouldnt be CGN without a great deal of the comments being about a completely irrelevant topic lol. It's perfectly legal guys, there are guns that already employ such barrels in Canada but theyre either custom or proprietary designs. I digress, and concur that a run of 100 or so would sell out very quickly.
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I’d personally grab 2 if TNA did a run.

The amount of internet experts and smart asses on here is just entertaining wouldn’t you say OP?
 
Airborn_69 said:
I’d personally grab 2 if TNA did a run.

The amount of internet experts and smart asses on here is just entertaining wouldn’t you say OP?
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Id buy more than one also for my NR semi's. And yeah its the internet, alot of good sharing of ideas but also alot of people wanting to be right about a subject that's largely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
 
mileageman said:
...when realistic custom pricing comes out only 5 will pony up the cash, so most manufacturers won't touch this, not worth their time.
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No, if it's people on this board:

200 people will be "interested"
100 of them will lose interest because the style of device isn't identical to some obscure one they saw in a photo of some Navy SEALS in training
50 won't buy in because they can't get it in Blackout and/or the specific barrel profile and/or the specific tube length they want
40 won't put a deposit because they "will never do another preorder"
7 will cancel their order and get their deposit back because it will longer than 18 hours from design to delivery
The remaining 3 will have their orders cancelled/refunded by the supplier because there was very little demand and it wasn't worth tooling up for a run of three barrels.

That said, I would buy two of these, the lighter the better.
 
OR OR OR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oznjv7KbmsQ

Thread the end, port behind the thread. Then you can use shims and a slide over Halbek style muzzle device to adjust the brake to a type/look you like.

Come to think of it you could probably cheaply do this to an existing barrel. The main thing is getting a muzzle device made with reverse thread. Otherwise its counterbore, cut large ports, then make a muzzle device. You could even use one of the TNA reverse mock suppressors as a base since it already has reverse threads. Although aluminium muzzle devices can be prone to wear.
 
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Let’s go further and do dimpled and spiral flutes and integrated adjustable gas block and custom cerakote and material and finish of choice and out be cheaper than a bcl blem sale with lifetime warranty. And of course any obscure caliber and gas length on demand as well.

AntiKhaos said:
As an aside for people saying the brake needs to be smaller than the gas block journal. You can buy two piece gas blocks.
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Chromed and in 9.3x62 Mauser please.


lj007 said:
Let’s go further and do dimpled and spiral flutes and integrated adjustable gas block and custom cerakote and material and finish of choice and out be cheaper than a bcl blem sale with lifetime warranty. And of course any obscure caliber and gas length on demand as well.
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Sigh

To the posters who say it's not worth "their time"
Faxon already makes 18.6 barrels for us..so you are wrong, they will. I think 50 or 100 units and they will do it.

Just because they ignored my messages doesnt mean they wont. They have replied to me in the past when I asked for 18.6" gunner profile barrels.. and tada! They appeared!

Just to reiterate though, a standard penciled 18.6 barrel with a shorty 0.5" titanium brake will be lighter and only 0.5" longer.. with the option to change the device.
 
winnipegger said:
Get one done like the faxon or a long three prong flash hider and I'd be in. Or a surfire style brake.
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There is a member here also.. ugh I forget the name but the guy does the NR bullpup barrels and acr barrels. I saw a sig barrel he did with integrated device once. Name escapes..
Herron arms I think?
 
$kull said:
Sigh

To the posters who say it's not worth "their time"
Faxon already makes 18.6 barrels for us..so you are wrong, they will. I think 50 or 100 units and they will do it.

Just because they ignored my messages doesnt mean they wont. They have replied to me in the past when I asked for 18.6" gunner profile barrels.. and tada! They appeared!

Just to reiterate though, a standard penciled 18.6 barrel with a shorty 0.5" titanium brake will be lighter and only 0.5" longer.. with the option to change the device.
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A lot of people make a pretty sound argument that for ballistics and muzzle velocity the optimum barrel length for a .223 AR is 16". I know that's getting fussy and not really relevant for most shooters, but to produce a barrel with a 16.6" rifled section and a 2" device would be preferable. It would look nicer and save some weight, too.

FWIW I have a .5" titanium device on my Modern Sporter build. Nothing wrong with that.
 
$kull said:
There is a member here also.. ugh I forget the name but the guy does the NR bullpup barrels and acr barrels. I saw a sig barrel he did with integrated device once. Name escapes..
Herron arms I think?
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U bet. Herron Arms. Used to be a contributing dealer on here however only does these barrels with a blank from scratch. $$$

Hinting for TNA to do the same :)
 
I'd be interested in at least one if lightweight. If I had firm pricing I'd be willing to put some money down even.
I'd have no interest if it was a match profile barrel.
 
TNA any interests?

I’ll buy an AR15 & 102 if you decide to go ahead. (Depending on the muzzle device.)

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