Which milsurp next?

What would you buy? (any why?)

  • Ross M10 - Canada history, eh!

    Votes: 24 46.2%

  • M48 with sidemount - Enemy at the gates part II

    Votes: 21 40.4%

  • SKS Bubbafied - let out the Bubba in you

    Votes: 7 13.5%
  • Total voters
    52
H Wally

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It comes down to this: I want something "sniperesque". I want it to fullfil a theme lacking in my collection, then to be a fun shooter. I have narrowed it down to a Ross M-10, a Yugo M48 with side mount scope, or an Sks to bubba and add a sidemount scope to.

The ross intrigues me with as genuine piece of canadian history with a crazy bolt and smooth trigger. I'll have to have one eventually, so why not now?
Pros: It's so Cool!!! and I already use .303.
Cons: At $700 and up it's easily the most overpriced rifle on the list for a less than pristene (spelling?) rifle.

The M48 would be a great general use rifle. In a good caliber, based off what many argue as the strongest action, I could scope it with a zrak style sidemount without the guilt I feel with more historically important models of mauser.
Pros: It'd give me a useable and abuseable mauser.
Cons: I don't reload for 8mm yet.

The Sks would be an "econo sniper". Obviously more of a plinking rifle than serious bush gun or hunting rifle, it's advantage is cheap initial cost and ammo. After all, who wants to shoot a gun that costs you $10 a pop?
Pros: Cheaper than dirt and can be abused without guilt.
Cons: The scope and mount would cost as much if not more than the rifle!:rolleyes:


So come on, what would be the bees knees for you? Pros and cons of your own?
 
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H Wally said:
The Sks would be an "econo sniper". Obviously more of a plinking rifle than serious bush gun or hunting rifle, it's advantage is cheap initial cost and ammo. After all, who wants to shoot a gun that costs you $10 a pop?
Pros: Cheaper than dirt and can be abused without guilt.
Cons: The scope and mount would cost as much if not more than the rifle!:rolleyes:


So come on, what would be the bees knees for you? Pros and cons of your own?
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The SKS would be an econosniper alright, minus accuracy. I don't think you 'd be happy to attempt any form of sniping with the SKS. The M48 would be a good choice. You could even use the removeable WW2 repro style scope mount just recently offered by www.accumounts.co m (move the 'm' closer).:)
 
Look at the probable value of each one down the road. The Ross is apt to go up the fastest, to the highest amount of money. By one now and watch it appreciate in value. The Yugo mauser will probably appreciate, but not nearly as much or as quickly, so, therefore, will be more affordable a year or two from now when you decide to pick one up. Will the SKS appreciate? Not bloody likely, unless its Russian. My $0.02.
 
So what's a good price for your standard multi donor functional ross? I was under the impression it was in the $700 range, but I could be wrong. What would people pay for an average ross?
 
Out of those? The Ross.

A bubba'd SKS doesn't fit my definition of milsurp, and I fail to see how a post-war M48 has anything to do with Stalingrad? Also, why would you use a sidemount? Typically, an M48 would have turret mounts such as those made by ZRAK - ?
 
I'm not going for historical accuracy, can't afford it. Mainly something with a scope, as I don't yet have anything that has glass on it and I would feel bad messing with a wartime rifle, so an m48 would take a mauser's place. To give you a hint, I'm a student with an rifle addiction, so I have to make concessions in my buying preferences. That said, anyone need their leaves raked for a minimal charge? It's for a good cause.
 
True, but I'd be drilling and tapping it. I prefer to do that sort of thing to a rifle that doesn't lose it's historical value when I do that. I also probably wouldn't have the patience to save up for the correct mount or scope.
 
Then buy a bubba'd Lee-Enfield, Mauser, M-48, etc. There's no guilt associated with bubba'ing a bubba.

Even a bubba'd P-14 or M-17 would make a good choice, they don't even need to be drilled and tapped, just get a no-gunsmith mount, a good cheek piece and a nice after-market stock, and voila.

Stay away from the SKS, even a bubba'd Ross would be a neat project, just don't expect to find any aftermarket parts for it.
 
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If you are planning on potentially mounting a scope on an all original Ross, I would like to change my vote to SKS. Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase don't muck up an original Ross! :runaway:
 
The ross is a sniper in of itself. That's why I deliberately left "plus sidemount" out on the description;) . I have trouble validating putting a repro mount on a mosin 91/30, I'd probably go into a coma before I touched a cutting tool to a ross!

Althoughhhh, would you give me an sks if I promised not to hurt a ross?
 
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Why not just buy an M48 and get a no-gunsmithing scout mount for it? That would give you a somewhat reasonably priced milsurp (if nowhere near the price Americans got their Yugos for), the ability to reach out and touch a target, deer, zombie etc just as effectively as with a new Savage or other mainstream sporter would, and have the added benefit of not harming the originality/collectibility of the rifle.

If you don't like the scout mount setup, perhaps you could get yourself an unbubba'd enfield and put a no-gunsmithing mount on it as an affordable and practical alternative.

Even though I seem to have an above-average SKS when it comes to accuracy that I greatly enjoy shooting, I'll probably only consider mounting a scope as an afterthought after I've scoped my K31 and a few other of my milsurps, which is to say not any time soon. Most of the scope mount set-ups based upon the reciever cover are mediocre at best and would probably have to be re-sighted everytime the rifle is taken down for cleaning.

Cheers,

Frank
 
None of the above. No more room! 2 Rosses, two bubba'd sks's, several noisey maggots, and about 200 others, mostly Enfields. Around 60 handguns
Vickers, Lewis, Bren, Sten, 2 inch mortar, Piat. 3 No4Mk1T's so no interest in a scoped moisen. Sorry, I just couldn't resist.;)
 
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None of the above. No more room! 2 Rosses, two bubba'd sks's, several noisey maggots, and about 200 others, mostly Enfields. Around 60 handguns
Vickers, Lewis, Bren, Sten, 2 inch mortar, Piat. 3 No4Mk1T's so no interest in a scoped moisen. Sorry, I just couldn't resist.;)
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Rub it in why don't yah. :p :D
 
John Sukey said:
None of the above. No more room! 2 Rosses, two bubba'd sks's, several noisey maggots, and about 200 others, mostly Enfields. Around 60 handguns
Vickers, Lewis, Bren, Sten, 2 inch mortar, Piat. 3 No4Mk1T's so no interest in a scoped moisen. Sorry, I just couldn't resist.;)
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In that case, sell me one of your rosses! I can put a down payment in right away;)

Beadwindow said:
Why not just buy an M48 and get a no-gunsmithing scout mount for it? That would give you a somewhat reasonably priced milsurp (if nowhere near the price Americans got their Yugos for), the ability to reach out and touch a target, deer, zombie etc just as effectively as with a new Savage or other mainstream sporter would, and have the added benefit of not harming the originality/collectibility of the rifle.
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My main hope was to have a rifle that would allow for both the use of ironsights and a scope. With that in mind a mosin probably should have been on the list too.

How many would vote for a 91/30 scoped if I had put it up? That would provide a cheap milsurp in large caliber that would more than fulfill my needs.... I still want a ross though...
 
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