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Peter Mackay doesn't seem to have a policy on firearms, on his website, or on this Wikipedia summary:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Conservative_Party_of_Canada_leadership_election#Platforms

Leslyn Lewis may be what we have been waiting for. Obviously we need a new approach. And, while not news to us in the (rapidly disintegrating) firearms community, we may not get another crack at this. The trajectory Trudeau has us on, we are clearly now in the end-stages of anything like the Canada we have known all our lives. Another Liberal majority and it is not just ballgame for firearms and the firearms industry, but natural resource development, the economy, our military as a respectable force, our reputation in the world (as countries like China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and even the United States openly laugh and mock us in the mainstream media, with no push back), etc., etc.

Can we mobilize the firearms community behind Leslyn Lewis? Should we? I feel I have to try and do something now. I think we all do. I think can probably convince at least a half dozen to sign up and vote. I just want to make sure I am backing the right horse. Last time, we mostly sat out, let the process play itself out, and we ended up with a compromise candidate in Scheer. A roll-over weakling that lost a very winnable election. Now, look where we are.
 
MustangFrank said:
The fact that she is not a career politician is her greatest asset. She needs to play up the common person angle. People are jaded with the career politicians. No one knew who Scheer was either, but he was so wishy washy, he quickly lost his advantage. He fizzled. O'tool might have won elections, but some of the back benchers get more T.V. time than him. He has done nothing. Another nice guy dud. So, yes we need to stand on the precipice, and take the plunge. Roll the dice and try something new. We cannot get any worse than not being in power, but we might win, and regain power. It's worth the gamble. Turdo's light is starting to dim.
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Yep. Not gonna lie. She is fresh blood and Ottawa is in desperate need of just that!

ghostie said:
Peter Mackay doesn't seem to have a policy on firearms, on his website, or on this Wikipedia summary:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Conservative_Party_of_Canada_leadership_election#Platforms

Leslyn Lewis may be what we have been waiting for. Obviously we need a new approach. And, while not news to us in the (rapidly disintegrating) firearms community, we may not get another crack at this. The trajectory Trudeau has us on, we are clearly now in the end-stages of anything like the Canada we have known all our lives. Another Liberal majority and it is not just ballgame for firearms and the firearms industry, but natural resource development, the economy, our military as a respectable force, our reputation in the world (as countries like China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and even the United States openly laugh and mock us in the mainstream media, with no push back), etc., etc.

Can we mobilize the firearms community behind Leslyn Lewis? Should we? I feel I have to try and do something now. I think we all do. I think can probably convince at least a half dozen to sign up and vote. I just want to make sure I am backing the right horse. Last time, we mostly sat out, let the process play itself out, and we ended up with a compromise candidate in Scheer. A roll-over weakling that lost a very winnable election. Now, look where we are.
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Yep. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy. We must stop shooting ourselves in the foot and banking on the same rank-and-file politicians isn't working!
 
The fact she is pro life and won't March in the parades while she's supposed to be the "unity" of Canada will make her push away thousands of middle voters. She's a scratch for that alone for millions.

You don't have to be for abortions or pro lgqbt but it's in a day and age where someone in the highest level of government can no longer be "minding their own business" as you're a public figure and your personal opinion, thoughts and hobbies matter
 
Wincor said:
The fact she is pro life and won't March in the parades while she's supposed to be the "unity" of Canada will make her push away thousands of middle voters. She's a scratch for that alone for millions.

You don't have to be for abortions or pro lgqbt but it's in a day and age where someone in the highest level of government can no longer be "minding their own business" as you're a public figure and your personal opinion, thoughts and hobbies matter
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Why is her reason as person and ethics contingent on being paraded around like some side show? honestly asking.
 
Wincor said:
The fact she is pro life and won't March in the parades while she's supposed to be the "unity" of Canada will make her push away thousands of middle voters. She's a scratch for that alone for millions.

You don't have to be for abortions or pro lgqbt but it's in a day and age where someone in the highest level of government can no longer be "minding their own business" as you're a public figure and your personal opinion, thoughts and hobbies matter
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She's not rabidly anti-abortion. They can't use the race card on her. HUGE bonus. And they obviously can't pull the gender card either. Another huge bonus. Plus she's the only one who is actually running that is A) firing on all cylinders and B) hitting hard with vicious lefts and rights. Not all the articles I've seen about her are bad, either. You're so keen to write her off and you don't even know!
 
sledge said:
Can you repeat this 1000 times for the gents here? We are in a recession and global pandemic. Nobody in the cities is going to vote for an unknown with no experience.
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The fact is that Lewis IS getting known and the word is spreading! It would also be our job to get involved and spread the word should she win the leadership. Being "known" also comes with history and baggage. McKay will be attacked like Scheer, with similar strategies. The fact that he previously supported a ban makes him a target for being seen as hypocritical.

The Libtards won't know what to do with Leslyn Lewis. Her "lack of experience" in politics actually would appeal to a lot of people because I always hear "all politicians are the same and I'll vote for the lesser of all evils". Being a politician is about public speaking, winning arguments and debates. Who better than a well-spoken, educated woman versed in law? A politician has to appeal to many demographics -and she definitely checks those boxes.

Paul_1982 said:
She’s more qualified no doubt. But at least he was an MP when he was made leader. Remember- if she wins she can’t even step foot in the House of Commons. Another MP would have to give up their seat. It’s a bad look and does not make her look ready to lead the country through these times.
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Don't forget, Jagmeet Singh won the NDP leadership without a MP seat and the NDP ended up with more seats than they have in years...

Still alive said:
Well, Mr. “ He’s not ready” got in, didn’t he? Twice?
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think about it...and

anton520b said:
In addition to this, Leslyn will beat the opposition and media "whores" with her calm diplomatic mind and super intelligence, she will play with all opposition like someone who beats idiots with their own stupidity. Leslyn is black female, a true conservative to that, not experienced spoiled fat chair politician with lots of "experience". We want a fresh normal folks kind of person to win hearts of many liberals without appeasing them.

With Leslyn, CPC would become truly invincible, hopefully our fellas members of CPC could look further than just a few feet in front of them, and cast their vote for Leslyn. We all win if she gets elected!
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This :agree:

In addition to her Bachelor's, Leslyn Lewis has a Masters degree in Environmental Studies from York University (gives her credibility with the environmental interest groups), a Masters of Business Administration: concentration in Business and Environment (more fence votes to be swayed) with actual knowledge about business budgets and she also has a PhD in Law.

We need to get it right this time...
 
ih8ipods said:
Leslyn lewis, she said tell the UN to pound sand, she was the first to condemned the ban. Erin O'Toole is my second choice for the military background. Mckays wife is bat#### crazy and he's a red Tory so he's a no for me.
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My thoughts exactly but MacKay he well he seems to be a little strange
 
Fire Ant said:
The fact is that Lewis IS getting known and the word is spreading! It would also be our job to get involved and spread the word should she win the leadership. Being "known" also comes with history and baggage. McKay will be attacked like Scheer, with similar strategies. The fact that he previously supported a ban makes him a target for being seen as hypocritical.

The Libtards won't know what to do with Leslyn Lewis. Her "lack of experience" in politics actually would appeal to a lot of people because I always hear "all politicians are the same and I'll vote for the lesser of all evils". Being a politician is about public speaking, winning arguments and debates. Who better than a well-spoken, educated woman versed in law? A politician has to appeal to many demographics -and she definitely checks those boxes.



Don't forget, Jagmeet Singh won the NDP leadership without a MP seat and the NDP ended up with more seats than they have in years...



think about it...and



This :agree:

In addition to her Bachelor's, Leslyn Lewis has a Masters degree in Environmental Studies from York University (gives her credibility with the environmental interest groups), a Masters of Business Administration: concentration in Business and Environment (more fence votes to be swayed) with actual knowledge about business budgets and she also has a PhD in Law.

We need to get it right this time...
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I completely agree we need to get this right this time I believe Mrs Lewis is right
 
I am a traditionalist at heart, and have been an O'Toole supporter since the start of the race. That said, I am rapidly warming to Leslyn Lewis based on her unequivocal stance on the ban among other things. I like what I see and my just give her my vote.
 
Wincor said:
The fact she is pro life and won't March in the parades while she's supposed to be the "unity" of Canada will make her push away thousands of middle voters. She's a scratch for that alone for millions.

You don't have to be for abortions or pro lgqbt but it's in a day and age where someone in the highest level of government can no longer be "minding their own business" as you're a public figure and your personal opinion, thoughts and hobbies matter
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Normally... by which I mean over the last 30 years... I would have agreed with this. I would have said pick the establishment candidate (Mackay) to give ourselves the best chance. And if Mackay gets the leadership, we will all hold our breath, hope for the best, and we will all vote for him in the election. We have no choice.

He is a risk. Lewis is a different kind of risk. Women, people of colour, and people mentioning abortion do not have much of a record of success leading political parties, national or provincial, in this country. But then again... I can't remember there ever being a Black woman running for the leadership of a major party, let alone with these kinds of right-of-centre policies.

We've got to try something. We need to give ourselves a chance in the next election.

Derek Sloan I don't think is really in the game this time. Erin O'Toole, as much as I like and respect him, is going to get shredded like Sheer, Preston Manning, Stockwell Day, and even Harper (before the idiots parked their votes with the NDP for a couple of election cycles). A lot of guys and gals here are too young to remember this.... but we need something more like Mulroney when he came on the scene in the 1980s. Something new. Slick. Corporate. Shiny. A Conservative that could carry both Quebec and Ontario, and crushed his opposition... making them look like yesterday's men.

We may never see that again (and what is "something new" in 2020/21 will be a lot different than it was in 1984. Certainly a slickk corporate lawyer from Quebec will not be our ticket this time), But when you run yesterday's man, you are at risk of getting "yesterday's man results" (U.S. examples: Jeb Bush, Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, etc.)

I am still talking to people and trying to decide. I think it is Lewis (new) or Mackay (establishment). I think those are the only real choices.
 
Lewis id say or O'tooleor sloan. Don't think id vote mckay Honestly at this point I am more inclined to say we break off of the disaster that is Canada with or without the clarity act. They cant realistically stop us leaving anyways.
 
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Damn right. There's conservative and then there's *ahem* "Conservative". Cough cough. The CPC are the ONLY main party that are even remotely friendly to the cause but they are almost left of center, now. I know many within still hold true to the tried and tested, reliable ways but far too many are drifting further and further left.
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And/or they’ve become these closeted idealists: on the outside they smile and agree to all the dung flung in their face because it’s the PC thing to do, but quietly behind closed doors they voice a different opinion.
 
LEWIS because she seems to actually stand for her beliefs. What a concept. Besides the EXTREMELY LOUD minority of leftist gun owners on this forum have no clue about the number of minorities who actually dont want mandatory trans drag queen story hour coming to their local schools either (Chinese, Muslim, Indian)...If you try and be a woke cpc leader, why on earth would anyone vote for you over the liberals? Being truly conservative and preventing our country from turning into another generic globalist anti nationalist hub is what will win the silent majority of true hard working Canadians. There most certainly is a Canadian identity and appealing to that is what we must do.
 
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