New Trudeau Blair rules on shotguns

How confident are you the RCMP officer measuring your barrel will know. Will you smugly tell him he just doesn't understand shotguns?

What with a ruler at the choke end . Oh boy. Not to mention in 55 years of hunting and target shooting a rcmp officer has never even touched one of my shotguns or wanted to. Dnr looking for the plug and lead shot when duck hunting is about it
 
LOL Orders in Council can only be used to ban specific items thats why all the Ar15s they could possibly think of are listed same with 20mm it lists the ptrd Russian anti tank rifle etc.
You shot guns are fine. to ban all firearms over 20mm they would need legislation and it would have to go through parliament like bill c-68 otherwise its only the ones they have listed orders in council can only ban specific items and they must be listed but don't get me wrong we must fight for our firearms if this stirs up yhe duck hunters then its a good thing
 
No idea on the 935 but I have an old 835 barrel and it is as I stated. It is one the the very first ones made however
take care

Here is one to think about. Maybe the 775 came later as a marketing gimmick nothing more

A back bored barrel will increase velocity in a 12 gauge reliably up to .740 diameter. All wads will expand to seal the bore up to .740 diameter. The reason you have increases in velocity is that you are changing the volume of the interior of the bore which changes the expansion ratio for the powder being burned. All of this works with the corelation of barrel length but by decreasing the resistance of the bigger bore you will get an increase in velocity.

Apparently some tests showed a substantial increase in velocity of shot through the overbored barrels. Cant remember what the averages were at the moment. I really didn't care about the potential increased speeds. I was more interested in the patterns, particularly with larger shot sizes, which from my experience have been better then my other 12g guns. All that means nothing if you miss the target, so take it for what its worth...
 
No kidding. I’m getting ticked off reading this crap about “fudds” not “joining in the fight”.

Dilly, I've met you and you're no Fudd. Neither am I. It's not the focus our our passions but our willingness to throw other gun owners under the bus that creates a Fudd. But they exist and they cause us damage. All of us. Because one day, the government will be coming for my vintage SxS and your vintage drillings and to stave that off, gun owners need to speak with one voice, on behalf of all gun owners. Fudds are the government's fifth column.
 
How could they not have any FaRTed 8ga guns? They aren't common but are certainly far from being unheard of. There are larger ones as well.
50 mins on the phone and he got help looking. Couldnt find any 8ga. When he started opening things coming up were all 10ga guns. He stated they were non restricted. I did learn theres at least 1 10ga colt sxs with longer than 36" barrels though.
 
Ya it is .745. Next question

Right from Mossberg

h ttps://www.mossberg.com/category/series/835-ulti-mag/

All smoothbore 835 and 935 models are overbored to 10 gauge dimensions, which reduces pellet deformation for exceptionally uniform, dense patterns.

Where are you measuring the bore, at how may points did you measure?

h ttps://www.turkeyandturkeyhunting.com/ask-an-expert/mossberg-835-whats-the-best-load-and-choke
Think in terms of points of constriction — the difference between the choke diameter and bore diameter in thousandths of an inch. For example, a standard-bore (.729 inch) 12-gauge will often perform well shooting smaller lead shot (Nos. 5 or 6) through a .660-constriction choke. That’s a .069-inch difference. If you could screw that .660 choke onto an 835 — with its .775-inch bore diameter — it’s a difference of .115 inch. With that much constriction, you’ll likely get lots of flier pellets and see a very uneven pattern. It’s just too tight. For comparison, it would be like putting a .614-constriction choke on a standard-bore 12-gauge.
 
For those so worried about their 12 gauge shotgun a simple test for an over 20mm bore would be to take a 20mm steel ball bearing and drop it in the chamber and see if it falls through the bore and out the muzzle.

The bore is not the largest diameter between the breech and the muzzle, it is the smallest diameter after the chamber area and before the choke area, that is the bore of a shotgun.
 
The bore is not the largest diameter between the breech and the muzzle, it is the smallest diameter after the chamber area and before the choke area

While you are technically correct, in this particular scenario it is however the RCMP measure it. Burlews opinion is based on the forensic method the RCMP have on record for measuring bore. The technical truth of the "actual" bore measurement is no more pertinent than the fact my AR is not an actual Assault Rifle but has been deemed one by the powers that be and prohibited.
 
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Right from Mossberg

h ttps://www.mossberg.com/category/series/835-ulti-mag/



Where are you measuring the bore, at how may points did you measure?

h ttps://www.turkeyandturkeyhunting.com/ask-an-expert/mossberg-835-whats-the-best-load-and-choke

Just outside the forcing cone where it is to be measured and yes a 835 may be as you guys say today but the barrel I have was from a first year gun 1988 and it wasn't then. I bought one new as soon as they hit canada with this extra barrel. There was no talk about the 10ga comparison it was all about the new 3 1/2" round for a 12ga which is why I wanted it and it proved to be a POS
Take care
 
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I just read in a thread under General that Blair said the 20mm rule didn't include 10ga and 12ga shotguns.

is there any source that reported him saying this anywhere?

Bill Blair



10 and 12 gauge shotguns were not prohibited on May 1st. Canadians deserve accurate information. Please see an important clarification below:



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I'm curious where the "that's how RCMP forensic" measures it comes from. I'd love to know where that came from.
 
Can you post the law that says this?

If you cant you are talking out your a**

Shawn

Shawn you are just trolling here...and have made my ignore list.

Blair has confirmed industry standards place the bore after the chamber and before the choke... post 156 I believe...
 
I am at a loss for words with the way people are reacting to this 20 mm BS. Go shoot your shotgun and enjoy life. I am starting to wonder how many people are actually shooters vs. internet gunners.
 
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