I found these two pistols!

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In the back of my one of my safes. I can't remember where I got them from but they have no manufacturer on them. The only marking on them is "Aug. Presented to Col Sam Blake Jr. 1925" There are two distinct "knotches" on one of them. Does anyone have any ideas about them. I won't be taking them with me on my move so I was thinking of selling them but don't know anything about them.

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This probably wont help at all but here is something that looks pretty close to yours.

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ugh....

nater3 said:
This probably wont help at all but here is something that looks pretty close to yours.

www<remove>.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8274444
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no...not even close.....these are quite old....not current repros......I know i got them from an estate sale and the owner had them for over 50 years....It was a real ##### trying to register them
 
I find it hard to believe those guns were actually made in 1925. Not so much because of the finish but the style. The lack of proof mark implies they were probably made in North America but to my eye the style is typical of the reproduction guns which have been made for the last 30 or 40 years. Are there any patents or writing on the rear sight? Anything unusual about the inside of the lock? Anybody know for sure when reproductions started being made for the current market?

cheers mooncoon
 
Watch this. Mr Rich Guy is probably holding on to some ultra rare, historically significant one of a kind pair of pistols.

Antique road show anyone?

(I'll give you $100! :D )
 
I can tell you that Style of Case with the guns and stuff outlined with a bead of the Velvet is FRENCH!
But they copy that French style on Repo sets to!

If you look at old French Dueling pistols that Are Really Antique in a ORIGNAL case the case looks just like yours.

Heres a Picture of my 1874 French 11mil Persentation Officers Revolver look at the way the the stuff is fitted into the case and the beaded borders on every Pocket.

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These have all the styling characteristics of Spanish Jukar/Traditions repros. The wood beneath the hammer is relieved so that the stock can be used with either a flintlock or caplock. The tailpipe is a tube. Trigger guard tangs are short and secured with screws. Heavy cast nosecap. No pins or wedges to secure the barrels in the stock; are the barrels secured with screws from below? Are the nosecaps fastened to the barrels rather than the stocks? Take one of the pistols apart and have a look at the inletting. The difference between hand and machine inletting is pretty obvious. The internal mechanism of the lock will also be a clue.
The first modern repros appeared in the 60s with the US Civil War centennial.
 
tiriaq said:
These have all the styling characteristics of Spanish Jukar/Traditions repros.
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I am struck with the difference in quality between the pistols and the acoutrements. The cap box, the starting mallet and the nipple wrench look to be far superior to the guns themselves. I wondered about spanish guns but they should have proofs on the back left side of the barrel. I am positive the inletting is machine done ---- look at the difference between the trigger guard tang and the inletting for it. If Strangeday had not said that he had known of them for ove 50 years, I would have said they were no more than 20 or 30 years old and that the col sam blake bit was some sort of commemorative release.

cheers mooncoon
 
The casing appears to be very nicely done. The loading mallet, turnscrew and capbox look to be high quality. The flask looks to be an antique, its not a style that I recognize. The mould looks like a standard Italian hand burner. French fitting is well done. Cannot really judge the quality of the hinges, lock and joinery of the case itself. The stocks themselves appear to be a very light wood - where it is exposed in the notches - finished with a tinted varnish. Would appear to be beech. The inletting at the rear of the trigger guard is certainly machine cut. Drawfiling and refinishing would have eliminated the proof marks. I suspect that someone put a fair bit of time and effort into making up a cased set. But I am quite confidant that the pistols themselves are not very old.
 
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