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Gentlemen, I haven’t read this whole thread, but just want to input my 2cents.

I’m from the interior of BC (a very Conservative area) and currently live on Vancouver Island (surrounded by a sea of Orange and Green!) My wife is from QC and has absolutely no interest in politics at all.

I asked her if she had heard of Sloan, Lewis, O’Toole, or MacKay. She knows only the name MacKay - wasn’t sure for what reason or if good/bad vibes, but to her he is just another white guy politician. No interest what-so-ever... Showed her Lewis and talked about her policies a little. My wife’s response? Hmm, she sounds more like what I believe in, seems nice, much smarter than Trudeau, etc. Basically, the only politician that resonated with her in any way whatsoever. Even joined the CPC to vote for her as leader.

I’m voting for Lewis. I like O’Toole too, but IMHO only Lewis has a chance of pulling in people like my wife and get them engaged in politics, if even a little... her public speaking will only get smoother as she gets experience and I think her lack of political experience may actually help her relate to more people who are tired of the same old BS always spewed at us from every Party.

Also another anecdote - my wife’s family still in QC seem to be getting tired of our sunny-ways PM. They are starting to see through all the pandering. The showering of money doesn’t seem to be working on them anymore...
 
People do not know Lewis, she is a conservative unknown. Which is exactly what is needed, recent abucus pol indicated people would rather vote for the turd than for O'toole or Mackay. Simply because they are connected to the old party. We need to get on the environment thing this will sway voters! Abortion as long as it isn't touched is moot, a win in the GTA is needed for control. Mackay might get some of the east coast because of recognition, but will not get the GTA. O'toole won't win enough.

Some peoples signatures on this site: Definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. Vote for O'toole or Mackay is doing the same thing sadly. We will get rolled over and a$$f....d without a curtousy pillow to bite on.
 
Hi all
I've never posted before but this is worth it.
My daughter, a hard core liberal is going to vote for Lewis.
Lewis put a article on abortion.
She has dealt with it in a personal way.
I didn't read the article my daughter quoted lots of it to me.
She has the chance of getting the younger vote.
Ashley
 
Skerps said:
Gentlemen, I haven’t read this whole thread, but just want to input my 2cents.

I’m from the interior of BC (a very Conservative area) and currently live on Vancouver Island (surrounded by a sea of Orange and Green!) My wife is from QC and has absolutely no interest in politics at all.

I asked her if she had heard of Sloan, Lewis, O’Toole, or MacKay. She knows only the name MacKay - wasn’t sure for what reason or if good/bad vibes, but to her he is just another white guy politician. No interest what-so-ever... Showed her Lewis and talked about her policies a little. My wife’s response? Hmm, she sounds more like what I believe in, seems nice, much smarter than Trudeau, etc. Basically, the only politician that resonated with her in any way whatsoever. Even joined the CPC to vote for her as leader.

I’m voting for Lewis. I like O’Toole too, but IMHO only Lewis has a chance of pulling in people like my wife and get them engaged in politics, if even a little... her public speaking will only get smoother as she gets experience and I think her lack of political experience may actually help her relate to more people who are tired of the same old BS always spewed at us from every Party.

Also another anecdote - my wife’s family still in QC seem to be getting tired of our sunny-ways PM. They are starting to see through all the pandering. The showering of money doesn’t seem to be working on them anymore...
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Couldn’t agree more. Not only is she qualified & intelligent she is a direct challenge to what the LPC campaigns on. Trudeau does all his virtue signalling but we know he doesn’t walk the walk...this is our chance to show him and the rest of Canada that we do.

**Could you imagine the message it would send that Canada’s first female black PM (of course media would focus on those 2 attributes rather then her actual achievements/qualifications ) comes from CPC
 
motocross guy said:
Hi all
I've never posted before but this is worth it.
My daughter, a hard core liberal is going to vote for Lewis.
Lewis put a article on abortion.
She has dealt with it in a personal way.
I didn't read the article my daughter quoted lots of it to me.
She has the chance of getting the younger vote.
Ashley
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boom!! here's what we were waiting for....
 
Miss caramel has many haitian and jamaican in her lady's club, many are now talking of Leslin Lewis, she is not an unknown anymore. This is great news.
 
I honestly want her to win. Unfortunately I listened to her this morning on Question Period and i found her about as vulnerable on abortion and ### rights as Andrew Sheer was last election. When it comes to politics, most Canadians are simple people. The notion that Canadians are smart and savvy in choosing their governments is BS propagated by Liberal pandering. Leslyn is smart and educated and accomplished, but she comes across as too smart and educated. The last two elections have showed that its not smarts, education and accomplishments that win you an election. When asked about abortion and ### rights, long explanations don't work. It just sounds wishy-washy and suspicious to those Canadians that only give 3 seconds of thoughts to that sort of thing. I know its not her intention but its the way she comes across. I payed attention to her because i will vote for a new leader. But fast forward to the next federal election, putting myself in the shoes of an average Canadian that has been conditioned by the liberal-friendly media I would not buy into her. She would bomb on the same issues that have dogged Andrew Sheer last campaign. Canadians will probably like her a lot more than Andrew Sheer, but they will vote for Trudeau.
The good news is that all of the four CPC leadership candidates have come out against the OIC, so this is not a single deciding issue.
 
I watched CTV and question period with Liberial crook host just hate that fricken show but he had Lewis on the show He cut her short at every chance he got but this woman held tough with the loaded format . Time to support her I really believe she is the real deal .This country has been good to my family it's time to get it back from the trash that runs it now. The GTA vote is the key and her riding has the most seats in Toronto. Flash in the can is not going to win people are tired of the lies from all political parties . She seems to be open and I hope the real deal. Abortion and ### rights are a election tool the liberials pull out every time. And guess what abortion is legal murder and ### rights does have merit just like any minority. But it is obvious gun owners don't fit in this category . My two cents
 
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vickers vanguard said:
Was looking for some guidance, being a CPC member for 2 years now, and was divided between Sloan ( my preferred candidate actually ), and o’toll. Sloan will never get elected as an PM unfortunately, too many leftist bleeding hearts un this country that are not ready to listen to the truth. O’tool like some people said, he represents the good old white boy from the west.....her however ? That’s a game changer. Will vote for her.
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Two points:

1. O'toole isn't from the west. He was born in Montreal, spent most of his life in ON and QC.
2. I like LL but eastern urban centres are terrified of social conservatives and not likely to vote for a party lead by ex-pro-life activist.

I'd like to know what happened that LL lost her seat in the last election.
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Well if i may differ, Montréal is almost 100% PLC. The name Leslyn Lewis is echoing strong more and more everyday

In Villeray/ St Michel /Anjou /Montréal Nord /St Leonard /Rosemont and 3 or 4 mores ridings.
There is 170K+ haitians and Jamaican in those riding.
LL will definitely make swing ridings.
Those peoples will vote in LL.
 
caramel said:
Well if i may differ, Montréal is almost 100% PLC. The name Leslyn Lewis is echoing strong more and more everyday

In Villeray/ St Michel /Anjou /Montréal Nord /St Leonard /Rosemont and 3 or 4 mores ridings.
There is 170K+ haitians and Jamaican in those riding.
LL will definitely make swing ridings.
Those peoples will vote in LL.
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For some reason the Star Wars anthem is echoing in my mind ... A New Hope
 
Mr Wolverine said:
We are desperately in need of a strong CPC party. Please contact the prospective leadership candidates and ask what they plan to do with this Liberal OIC.

Then make your choice and join the CPC everyone over age of 14 can join the CPC get all your family on board. Only purchase a one year membership and do not include a donation, explain that you will only pay for results.

Hurry as I believe the deadline for membership in order to vote in the CPC leadership race is May 14th.
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In order to win the next election
Conservative must find a candidate from Ontario
1- speak French fluently
2- be open minded about the LGBT community
3- stop mumbling about abortion issue


And only after that we can win

Stop choosing candidates from the west which represent 15% of the population at best
 
Toss up between Erin and Leslyn for me. I like Sloan too but he'd never be able to win an election, his views are too backwards for the city folk to accept. Lieberal propaganda would eat him alive. Not to mention it looks bad going for the top job only a few months after becoming an MP in his riding.
 
Honestly don't understand how anyone thinks Lewis has a chance to win a general election... probably the same people who thought Canadians wouldn't ever vote for Trudeau again in the last election. The minute the word abortion comes out of a candidates mouth, they've lost. It doesn't matter that she only wants to prevent "gender selective abortions" and to end Canadian funding access to abortion services in foreign countries... she's toast. The general electorate is not as knowledgeable as we seem to be giving them credit for. O'Toole's social conservatism and desperation to hold onto the "tru blue" label will also cost him in an election. The vast majority of Canadians believe in abortion, LGBTQ2 rights and climate change. MacKay is the only shot of a general election victory. The fundraising data for the leadership contest also points in this direction. Voting for either Lewis of O'Toole will simply be akin to cutting off your nose to spite your face and all but guarantee another Liberal victory. I've voted Conservative in every election since I'v been old enough to vote, but even I would have a hard time casting a ballot for a candidate with such outdated social views. We need to accept the fact that MacKay isn't the most Conservative of the candidates, but he is the only one who could take on Trudeau. We need to take our wins where we can and win the battle before we can win the war. If you want another Liberal government - possibly even a majority, then by all means, vote for Lewis or O'Toole. If you want an actual chance of a CPC government after the next election, you need to get behind MacKay, at least for now.
 
That line is getting stale McKay was and is a old hack left over from the Mulroney years he is a third generation do nothing party back room HACK. Your Toronto and occupation background are showing .My two cents
 
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warzaw said:
That line is getting stale McKay was and is a old hack left over from the Mulroney years he is a third generation do nothing party back room HACK. Your Toronto and occupation background are showing .My two cents
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Painting someone you don’t know with such a wide brush is exactly the type of attitude that holds the CPC back in election times. You know nothing about me, my life, or my job. Ignorant and misinformed biases do nothing but prove my point and serve only to divide in a time when we need to stand united. I feel bad for you that you see the world in such a way.
 
This is getting old. The leadership candidates are who they are. I have my own favorite, but what I'm sure about is any one of them is better for the country than Trudeau is. Everyone should vote for whoever they like, and then support whoever wins.
 
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Honestly don't understand how anyone thinks Lewis has a chance to win a general election... probably the same people who thought Canadians wouldn't ever vote for Trudeau again in the last election. The minute the word abortion comes out of a candidates mouth, they've lost. It doesn't matter that she only wants to prevent "gender selective abortions" and to end Canadian funding access to abortion services in foreign countries... she's toast. The general electorate is not as knowledgeable as we seem to be giving them credit for. O'Toole's social conservatism and desperation to hold onto the "tru blue" label will also cost him in an election. The vast majority of Canadians believe in abortion, LGBTQ2 rights and climate change. MacKay is the only shot of a general election victory. The fundraising data for the leadership contest also points in this direction. Voting for either Lewis of O'Toole will simply be akin to cutting off your nose to spite your face and all but guarantee another Liberal victory. I've voted Conservative in every election since I'v been old enough to vote, but even I would have a hard time casting a ballot for a candidate with such outdated social views. We need to accept the fact that MacKay isn't the most Conservative of the candidates, but he is the only one who could take on Trudeau. We need to take our wins where we can and win the battle before we can win the war. If you want another Liberal government - possibly even a majority, then by all means, vote for Lewis or O'Toole. If you want an actual chance of a CPC government after the next election, you need to get behind MacKay, at least for now.
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I, respectfully, disagree with this.

I’ve voted conservative my whole life in federal politics, not that it matters any, but *I* don’t trust MacKay. I don’t understand why people think he has the best chance - maybe an Eastern Canada thing? Out here in the West, he seems to be a nothing-burger... And I would imagine MacKay is a juicy target for the Liberals.

Lewis has been quite forthcoming, and clear about where she stands - it’d be hard to trap her, I think, on things like abortion when her message is far from wish-washy and far from preachy as well. She has stated she doesn’t agree with it, but respects others decisions. I really don’t think that is too outrageous a concept for us average Canadians to understand. Heck, if it doesn’t bother my wife, who is typically quite liberal-thinking, then I can’t see how others would be so put off by it.

MacKay will be my 4th choice if I have to put one on the ballot.
 
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