Temporary Bolt AR?

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Hello everyone,

I'm wondering if there is a temporary solution where we can turn our AR15s to Bolt guns by just switching out the upper or something and have it legal and useable for range time while the government figures things out.

Is that possible? Buy a part or pay a gunsmith, make it a non-restricted bolt action for a few months?

Thanks! :)
 
Not without making a totally new lower from scratch. Because the lower is registered, their for the prohibited part. It's always going to be a AR15, even with a bolt action upper.
 
So both the lower and upper are registered?

Basically I'd have to get a lower and an upper, use the barrel, free float frond and butt stock, grip etc? Seems like it would be close to the cost of buying a bolt action :p
 
BaBam said:
So both the lower and upper are registered?

Basically I'd have to get a lower and an upper, use the barrel, free float frond and butt stock, grip etc? Seems like it would be close to the cost of buying a bolt action :p
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Only the lower is registered. You cannot make a restricted ( well now prohibited ) AR15 non restricted, by just changing out the upper. Once an AR always an AR. Plus not many bolt actions rifles, uses AR15 barrels. You might be able to find a bolt action chassi system that uses AR15 stocks and grips. Not too sure about the forearm.

But what you are asking, cannot happen. Like when the DA50 bolt action upper came out that could use AR15 lowers, it was restricted. ATRS had to make a custom lower, and do a slight mod to the upper, to make that non restricted.
 
Spectre Ballistics is selling a $20 sticker to hold a place in line for their Light Practical Carbine straight pull receiver set at $799. They are quite close to having their first production run out the door. You can strip your AR-15 of everything except the bolt carrier, receiver parts, and buffer spring. Spectre has elected to not employee the spring for an assist, lest any kind of automation mark the receiver as prohibited.

Maple Ridge Armoury has opened a pre-order for their MRA-V1B straight pull, spring assisted receiver set. They want a deposit of $200 towards the final price of $799.95. It will be similar to Spectre's, but MRA has elected to use the AR buffer spring to provide an assist to the action.

As noted, you may be able to get a magazine fed .223 traditional bolt action rifle for less money, but if you want to re-use your AR-15, ATRS, or Maccabee parts until the dust settles, and want something that uses AR-15 parts for a more tactical look and feel, both receiver sets give you that option.

Below is a video of Spectre's prototype LPC in action. Note that the charging handle on both designs is ambidextrous.

Spectre Ballistics Youtube Channel said:
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TrxR said:
I can see reusing a AR barrel unless you block the gas port somehow ?
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Spectre Ballistics said the following regarding your question:

Spectre Ballistics said:
Install your low profile gas block backwards. If you have an A-frame gas block you will need to plug it. No modifications to the barrel should be required. We will provide instructions.
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The MRA receiver comes with this part
MRA website said:
MRA V1-B Barrel Gas Journal Seal .750″ diameter (allows the use of various aftermarket barrels with a gas port)
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jiffx2781 said:
The bolt operation looks pretty sticky
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This was the un-anodized prototype. Spectre specifically said they would need to anodize the receiver to prevent wear. Presumably between the anodizing and further refinement of the prototype, the action will have smoothed. I'm sure the community is looking forward to videos of the final product in action :)
 
This is all exciting stuff :)

After more internet research I do see the potential for maybe using the stock, but just spent close to $400 in upgrades and extra mags over the winter and it sucks that I can't use it now or my old ammo.

Maybe I should look at 308 as well if I'm buying a bolt gun instead? Bolt guns seem to be easier to find in 308 but the ammo cost a bit more for strictly range use unto 200yds.
 
Maple Ridge Armory has what appears to be a proprietary NR ( for now) upper and lower that they say will accept most parts and covert to a manual pull bolt action with spring return by the looks of it.

ht tps://mapleridgearmoury.com/product/mra-v1-b-receiver-kit/

Looks like it’s in pre production with a deposit to secure the parts.
 
njohnson said:
Maple Ridge Armory has what appears to be a proprietary NR ( for now) upper and lower that they say will accept most parts and covert to a manual pull bolt action with spring return by the looks of it.

ht tps://mapleridgearmoury.com/product/mra-v1-b-receiver-kit/

Looks like it’s in pre production with a deposit to secure the parts.
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This looks very interesting, good finish as well. A little over $900 taxes in though, hopefully AR mags won't go prohibit next :(
 
BaBam said:
Hello everyone,

I'm wondering if there is a temporary solution where we can turn our AR15s to Bolt guns by just switching out the upper or something and have it legal and useable for range time while the government figures things out.

Is that possible? Buy a part or pay a gunsmith, make it a non-restricted bolt action for a few months?

Thanks! :)
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There are two problems.

1st, its the AR that is banned. Not semis. Bolt or not its still an AR.

2nd, and the bigger problem is that by trying to save your ar through modification you are SUPPORTING the gun ban by conceding that there is legitimacy in the law.

What we SHOULD be doing is converting all of our guns to full auto, because they are prohibited either way, and the penalty for possession is the same.

Its also a fact that the amnesty protects you from charges whether your gun is full auto or not
Separately its an open question whether the act of conversion would be covered under the amnesty if it was done for the purposes of complyijg with the amnesty.
 
Cameron SS said:
There are two problems.

1st, its the AR that is banned. Not semis. Bolt or not its still an AR.

2.d, and the bigger peoblem is that by trying to save your ar through modification you are SUPPORTING the gun ban by conceding that there is legitimacy in the law.

What we SHOULD be doing is converting all of our guns to full auto, because they are prohibited either way, and the penalty is the same.

Its an open qiestion whether the act of conversion would be covered under the amnesty if it was done for the purposes of deactivation.
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I agree with most of what you're saying, but it does look like all semis are going in the prohib direction so if we're buying anything for range use at this time only manually operated firearms make sense, if any sense can be made of this situation.

The reality is that there is a very minor chance of the conservatives coming into power right now, especially with basic income being bandied about. Canadian laws over time have been moving slowly towards complete civil disarmament. We're still technically a British colony and look where they are now.
 
BaBam said:
I agree with most of what you're saying, but it does look like all semis are going in the prohib direction so if we're buying anything for range use at this time only manually operated firearms make sense, if any sense can be made of this situation.

The reality is that there is a very minor chance of the conservatives coming into power right now, especially with basic income being bandied about. Canadian laws over time have been moving slowly towards complete civil disarmament. We're still technically a British colony and look where they are now.
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Except they are not stopping at semi autos. Look at all the manual actions that are banned, because the caliber exceeded a stupid Joules number.
 
OkayShooter said:
Except they are not stopping at semi autos. Look at all the manual actions that are banned, because the caliber exceeded a stupid Joules number.
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The end goal seems to be complete civil disarmament, so only the ruling class or government will have the right to use force...combined with increasing idiotic taxes like the carbon tax make for interesting times ahead :(
 
Cameron SS said:
There are two problems.

1st, its the AR that is banned. Not semis. Bolt or not its still an AR.
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Are you thinking that despite having bolt action upper and non interchangeable lower, it could easily fall prey to the “variant” interpretation? Since it is able to accept some peripheral components, albeit in a manual bolt operated version.
 
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njohnson said:
Are you thinking that despite having bolt action upper and non interchangeable lower, it could easily fall prey to the “variant” interpretation? Since it is able to accept some peripheral components, albeit in a manual bolt operated version.
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Well... they did ban a 22lr rifle with a plastic shell that makes it ressemble an AR15...
 
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