POS ruger hawkeye
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I know you love the Ruger, don't take it personally...there might have have been a time when they were a bargain and there was little comparable rifles out there.
It might have been in the 80's when the Sportview was available however...that model has been discontinued since then lol.
I don't own any Axis, so you might be confusing me with someone else. I do own a bunch of 1940's-70's rifles that cost me about the same as an Axis, mostly Mauser types (PH/FN/HVA), some target rifles, couple push feed Winchester M70's and BSA CF2's.
There are not a lot of new production rifles that really turn my crank... Vanguard/Howa are pretty decent and have a few of those, if you want a real "bargain" that's where it's at, compared to the Hawkeyes anyway lol.
I'm not a Hawkeye fan... but that has nothing to do with the bolt or the LC6 trigger... I hate the new Matte finish on most of the Hawkeye rifles... both the silver (stainless) and black (pseudo-blued) are horrible, they mark up, rust and don't take gun oil well... all of my Ruger rifles are M77 Mark II's and No.1's.
It's always funny how some self proclaimed experts are quick to compare their "super duper Ruger rifle" with the cheapest Savage out there just to justify their POS at 3 to 4 times the price. Fan boys are fan boys and no experts, imo, lol!
My experience with Rugers 10/22 jammomatics left me with "Never buy anything Ruger". Heck, I was shooting a JW-20 beside the 10/22 dudes and while it was eating everything flawlessly (88 rounds of different ammo) they were scrambling to get a full mag running through every time.
My experience with Rugers 10/22 jammomatics left me with "Never buy anything Ruger". Heck, I was shooting a JW-20 beside the 10/22 dudes and while it was eating everything flawlessly (88 rounds of different ammo) they were scrambling to get a full mag running through every time.
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I though it was like a ford chevy or dodge thing???
This entire thread you have had nothing constructive to say besides all Rugers suck and senseless bashing of hoyt.
I think you need to grow up man
Really
Look back on your posts in this thread, like a Godamn child
Note - I'm not a Ruger fanboi. The Ruger Scout that I own is honestly rather crude and unsophisticated compared to the two Steyr scouts I own.
But.
It's a solid, workmanlike, reliable rifle. The 10/22 takedown that I own has only ever caused me issues by being the rifle that a particular scope was mounted on when the elevation mechanism went to pewp.
And yes, the action on my Savage 10 FCP McMillan is honestly smoother than the Ruger....but when performing a bolt flick in a manner becoming of a competent rifleman, the difference in "slickness" matters not a whit.
The Rugers are neither garbage nor are they incredible. Mine is simply a robust, serviceable firearm that's allowed me to quickly put rounds on paper, steel, and mammals ranging from 30 yards to 600 yards. I may have a small emotional attachment to it since it was the rifle I used to finish first in my class at Gunsite...but not enough of an attachment to prevent me from recognizing that my Steyr is an overall more refined and better designed Scout rifle.
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That's a solid example of bolt work. I just wonder why he hasn't invested the time to put a good sling on that rifle and make use of it while in the sitting position - it truly makes a world of difference.
The 10/22 and the Ruger Mk2 pistols, and the majority of the revolver line are all decent guns and well thought out designs, I can't knock those at all. The newer "updates" may have been detrimental to the functionality of those designs, but I'd still say the Mk2 is the best 22 pistol ever developed for the price range, the 10/22 is not overly quirky, but being the most customizable after market support rifle on par with the AR15, you still need to know what swapping parts can do for functionality. The D/A revolvers are not Colt's or S&W quality, but they are tough solid guns. The S/A revolvers I would buy over any of the Italian SAA types if that was my thing. I had 2 SAA and single feeding/single unloading was actually not my thing.
Their auto pistol line has been a looong run of failure however, but things seem to be better recently.
They are one of those companies I wish would just stick to what they do good, and maybe refine those lines a bit more. No1's, 77's, revolvers, Mk2, 10/22...and bring back the Deerfields in hard hitting pistol cals, cuz I want some of those.
They are pretty solid in getting the empty brass out of the way. You can also work the bolt slowly and have the brass be delivered into your cupped hand while sitting at the shooting bench. Depends how you want it to go.
At least there is that feature.
Love the various M77s I've had (and still have 1). The Mauser action isn't butter slick like a push feed can be. May seem 'bindy' to the tikka crowd (I love my tikkas as well) and the push feed enthusiasts.
A little grease, proper technique and a couple hundred cycles will likely get it where it needs to be. My tikkas are super smooth and fast BUT my M77s have never FTE'd, FTF'd or double fed.
I love nutnfancy but he's kinda comparing apples to oranges with the push vs mauser feed.
A little grease, proper technique and a couple hundred cycles will likely get it where it needs to be. My tikkas are super smooth and fast BUT my M77s have never FTE'd, FTF'd or double fed.
I love nutnfancy but he's kinda comparing apples to oranges with the push vs mauser feed.
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I've had some hinky issues with some 10/22's over the years as well, but I've also had some that ran flawless over many rounds on targets & small critters with minor upgrades. Me old M77 tang safety .22-250 & 7mm mag units were smooth runners, as was me former 77 Mk II in 7.62x39 and M77/44 magnum. They were good functioning, accurate & great handling units that were simple to tweek for the loads I fed 'em. Aftermarket goodies abound for Ruger stuff if desired.
I've yet to handle the Hawkeye's or American's yet but it would be fun to dink around with 'em for an economy build on an American & a good action slick-up on a Hawkeye unit if needed. All up to personal preferences, skill level and/or money needed to get what ye desire.
Yeah, let`s do that, let`s look back at some posts.I stated that I had never owned a ruger worth keeping except the Mark 2 pistol and 10/22 (never said all rugers suck)
He starts with the insults in post #31, then with the savage axis thing and "look-look at me " pictures in post #50.I offer an olive branch in post #51, which he refuses to accept. He offers more insults in post #62 and post #73 is his final answer, really.I am still trying to be nice here, I still own and shoot a ruger SR-22.I do not own a savage axis, but that has nothing to do with this anyway, but if I did I would put a Bushnell sportview on it
Now yes, back to the Chevy, ford thing.
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Dont worry I have nothing in this. I neither love nor hate any particular rifle platform.
Its I was flowing this thread closely as I do not believe Hawkeye are POS. It was just an observation of mine, and I realized I have had run ins with people like you. You throw insults and run their mouth then when you are ready to knock them out they start back pedaling and offering to be your buddy.
Now, your comments were directed strait at someone for expressing his like for a particular rifle, he was also showing how they are certainly effective. And yes if anyone could be considered an an expert it would certainly be hoyt.
Its I was flowing this thread closely as I do not believe Hawkeye are POS. It was just an observation of mine, and I realized I have had run ins with people like you. You throw insults and run their mouth then when you are ready to knock them out they start back pedaling and offering to be your buddy.
Now, your comments were directed strait at someone for expressing his like for a particular rifle, he was also showing how they are certainly effective. And yes if anyone could be considered an an expert it would certainly be hoyt.
