Voere Rifles.

gunster said:
Elk man

The rifles in your photos are based on the Mauser 98 action. Did they give the model number or where they were made?

I believe that is an Austrian made model. I am not sure of the model #.
 
Yes, the Voere I was talking about earlier(poor accuracy) was made in Kufstein Austria and was a '98 Mauser Action(Commercial), if I remember correctly, it looked like a Santa Barbara. Nothing at all like the nice looking ones you see now or the Kleingunther ones. I only brought it up because at one point they weren't very good, kinda like cars, remember when Audi and Subaru first came over, they were junk, but look at them now!
 
Here are some pics of a Titan II

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Greetings and Salutations friends...
I'm quite pleased this thread is active.

I am seeking some clarification to the model mauser 98 Voere I have here.
It is a 98 Voere but I have no idea what model she is.
Can any one here bring clarity to the situation?
Any comments on your personal experience with these rifles
are much appreciated.

If anything else the fish scales are, well, different.
I kind of like it to be honest. Probably not everyone's cup of tea.

Best Regards
Riflechair
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I see some differnces yes. What makes this subject so exhausting is that this company name has been associated with German and Austrian manufacturers,
As well like Winchester's recent history in North America, this company name has changed ownership several times.
For example: the present Voere company is out of Austria and owned by Waffenfabrik. It used to be owned by Mauser, who bought it from another concern????
Our American Friends often refer to the commercial mauser actioned rifles as "Cugir" models, but in the 1980's the Kliengunther K-15s came out, and a 22 LR variant and briefly a 22 magnum bolt action was made as well.:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
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gunster said:
Further to my original post I found the following information on the Austrian Voere company which is still in business. The Voere of Germany company is no longer in the rifle business - sold the rifle designs to Mauser-Werke.

If you thought the designation for the German Voere was complex, read the following;

Voere of Austria - rifles in current production

Model; 2185 - Semi Auto rifle in 8 American & European calibers

Model; 2185 - Match version of the above rifle

Model; 2155 - Classic K98 bolt action rifle in 13 calibers

Model; 2165 - Modern version of the 98 action

Model; LBW 20-30 - Take down bolt action with interchangeable barrels only.

Model; Tirolerin - Bolt take down with changeable barrels, stocks & bolt heads

Model; 2002 Safari XXL - Very heavy rifle in 338 Lapua, 416 & 450 Rigby,
505 Gibbs, 416 & 460 Wby

Model; VEC-91 - Unique bolt action with electronic ignition and fires
caseless ammunition


I was wondering if someone would mention this ammo.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voere_VEC-91

http://www.voere.com/ammunition_vec91.htm#Seitenbeginn
 
Hi:
Found your comments on the
voere Titon II most interesting and agree with your observation about quality and accuracy. I own the 7 MM Reg Mag. It is the most accurate rifle I ahve ever owned. I used to have a Redfield 3X9 scope with Buhler mouonts on it. However, the scope did not match the rifle so I bought the same scope you have the Leupold 3.5 X 14-50 MM . However, have not able to use same as the Buhler mounts no longer work,. I even found a dealer in northern Bc who had a set of the Buhler high rings, but were not high enough. What mounts and rings do you have?
I would be most appreciative of any help you can give me.
Fred
 
I ahve a voere - german made- mannnlicher stock- in 300 weatherby -
it came with rings wich had to be machined a bit as they were not linng up correctly - but now they are fine- they said it was eiaer to machine the ones ia gave the mto mont scope the nto find new ones
hope you find some
 
Hi:
Found your comments on the
voere Titon II most interesting and agree with your observation about quality and accuracy. I own the 7 MM Reg Mag. It is the most accurate rifle I ahve ever owned. I used to have a Redfield 3X9 scope with Buhler mouonts on it. However, the scope did not match the rifle so I bought the same scope you have the Leupold 3.5 X 14-50 MM . However, have not able to use same as the Buhler mounts no longer work,. I even found a dealer in northern Bc who had a set of the Buhler high rings, but were not high enough. What mounts and rings do you have?
I would be most appreciative of any help you can give me.
Fred

Weaver bases #47 & #55 (available in steel or aluminium) will fit your rifle. Rings from Weaver, Leupold, Burris etc. will fit these bases. Good luck, you have a quality rifle there.
 
It's funny how things change... in the 60's I bought a new Voere, the price then was $199, it was a sporter weight 22-250 and it was one of the worst shooting rifles I've ever seen...with one of the worst trigger pulls, Remington 788s were $84 and could shoot rings around the Voere! In those days 788s and 700s were far and away the most accurate rifles. Even today I'd like to shoot a Voere beside a 700 or a Savage...throw in a Blaser....I bet the 700 and the Savage would come out on top!!

doubtful although the weapon is only as good as the rifleman
 
Interesting discussion. I have a 7mm RM Austrian Voere, model 2150 which I purchased new in about 1970. It served as my "only" big game rifle for a few years, and despite the many other choices I now have, it is my "go to" rifle. While I don't know exactly what it weighs, it appears to have a fairly thin walled barrel and is quite light. The older I got, the more brutal the recoil seemed to be, so several years ago I had it fitted with a muzzle break. At the same time, it recieved a stock refinish, a full teflon coating of the metalwork, and a new (at the time) 3200 Elite. The tamed recoil and decreased muzzle jump, along with the new glass did much to improve my ability to shoot it accurately. It's functional, accurate, good looking (in my opinion at least), and remains a favorite.
 
I owned a voere for a total of 2 days. The rifle was light but seemed very cheap to me. The bolt was terrible. The trigger sucked just as bad. I believe it was the 2155 model in 300 WM. You could not use medium rings on this rifle as the bolt handle would hit the scope. I never shot the gun because i was so dissapointed in it i immediately made arrangements for the gun to go back to its previous owner. I did alot of research on the rifle before it was purchased with all comments being positive. I would NEVER even consider another voere with its wacky bolt handle configuration and IMO poor quality. Keep in mind this is my only experience with this particular model. I cant comment on other models as they may be better or worse. Good luck.
 
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It's funny how things change... in the 60's I bought a new Voere, the price then was $199, it was a sporter weight 22-250 and it was one of the worst shooting rifles I've ever seen...with one of the worst trigger pulls, Remington 788s were $84 and could shoot rings around the Voere! In those days 788s and 700s were far and away the most accurate rifles. Even today I'd like to shoot a Voere beside a 700 or a Savage...throw in a Blaser....I bet the 700 and the Savage would come out on top!!

I'd very happy to accomodate you on that bet:D
 
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