Sold OUT: TYPE 81 LMG

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Wow if I'm paying $200 a pop for drum mags I sure as heck want the internals to be authentic and functional, T.I I really hope you guys make this right
 
I'm happy to see TI at least acknowledge that there is, indeed, a problem.
I would have MUCH preferred if the description for the drum had been more precise, and had maybe included some pictures of the internals. Saying it is blocked to 5 rounds isn't enough, and might lead people to think that there is allowance for more, i.e. it being a 5/75 drum instead of a 5/5 drum. TI, at the very least update the store page for the drum.
I'm not gonna ask for a refund, nor send mine back. Even if there are no retrofit kits in the end, actually modifying the drum doesn't seem like that much of a problem to me, and this wouldn't be my first gunsmith rodeo either. Like I said earlier, dremel go whiirrrrrrrrrr. My 3D printer also do a very similar sound, now that I think about it. I'd very much appreciate the arrival of an easy fix, but I won't be twisting my panties in a bunch over this either way.
 
Hey guys to clear up any further confusion, here is the internals of the drum. You can see that the full internals are there but the plate replaces the second "tree" of the wheel. We are investigating with factory if it's possible to simply turn the tree over so the flat part is on the bottom and one could then just drill and rivet outside

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Hey guys to clear up any further confusion, here is the internals of the drum. You can see that the full internals are there but the plate replaces the second "tree" of the wheel. We are investigating with factory if it's possible to simply turn the tree over so the flat part is on the bottom and one could then just drill and rivet outside

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If the plate replaces the second "tree", how is that still the "full internals"? It might not be 200 dollars for a shell of a drum, but 200 dollars for a drum with fake internals isn't much better.

How about getting a set of legit guts for these drums and then drilling and pinning after? The retrofit kit sounds like a good idea.
 
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UPDATE
We understand many are not happy with drum magazine design. To be honest when the factory showed us the pictures of the drum we had thought the plate was covering the internals. And we hadn't had the chance to investigate further due to large order rush upon arrival. We have a phone meeting tomorrow with factory to discuss the possibility of a free retrofit kit to allow customers to install original plate and spring so it can be riveted instead of internally blocked. Please stay tuned


This would be great, if this happens then no need to refund my drums...
 
Hey guys to clear up any further confusion, here is the internals of the drum. You can see that the full internals are there but the plate replaces the second "tree" of the wheel. We are investigating with factory if it's possible to simply turn the tree over so the flat part is on the bottom and one could then just drill and rivet outside


I don't thing it will work, pretty sure the bullet tips need to fit into the spiral groove in the body to feed.
 
I ordered 14 drums.
If you can make them to be functional and as reliable as the original system, then pinned to be legal I’m not canceling anything. I don’t mind waiting. Thank you for taking this seriously TI.

Make sure it shoots well, don’t add custom stuff in there and stick to the original way this magazine was designed. A simple rivet is the best way to go for reliability. To make it short : We simply want real drum magazines.
 
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UPDATE
We understand many are not happy with drum magazine design. To be honest when the factory showed us the pictures of the drum we had thought the plate was covering the internals. And we hadn't had the chance to investigate further due to large order rush upon arrival. We have a phone meeting tomorrow with factory to discuss the possibility of a free retrofit kit to allow customers to install original plate and spring so it can be riveted instead of internally blocked. Please stay tuned.

We have received a large volume of drum magazine refund requests, please refrain from sending multiple emails/voicemails all correspondence will be responded to and it will be done in order. Sending multiple emails and leaving multiple voicemails only adds more work for our team and slows everything down further. Our first priority will be to pull orders from queue to allow our team time to re-process orders as invoices and possibly shipping labels will have to be re-done and we don't want anyone worrying their order will ship before their drums will be refunded from order. Once done it will go back into queue in the place it was previously. Thank you for your patience.

thanks for the update TI...
i don't want to gum up the works and delay shipping by sending an email...
having never owned a drum magazine, and not knowing much about them, i'd like to ask some questions
1) shouldn't there be a spring of some sort in the pic you took of the gutted/modificated internals?
2) if you are able to get the full internals as a retro fit from poly tech, will you just forward them on to us that ordered drums, or will we have to inform you we want one
3) further to #2 above....would you take the drums back to retro fit and rivet free of charge, and do a functional test to make sure they are good

while i just ordered the drum for the looks, seeing that they are gutted is a depressing sight, and i, like many others am disapointed, but i wont be cancelling my drum order so as to not mess up when my rifle ships

and finally, 4) seeing as so many are not happy with the situation, and if poly tech refused to provide a retro internals free of charge, what other options could we have to placate the masses

thanks in advance for taking the time to answer these, and many others while you are so busy
 
I use to own a Romanian drum. If a kit is to be provided then it better be two spindles already attached to each other by a dozens pins bcos these pins are pressed in, not a job an average Joe could handle replacing the plate with a new spindle.

riveting a drum is another story, some people cant even rivet a box mag properly.
 
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I will probably return my drum and just get a AK one as I want the real deal at that price. Do not really care about the bolt hold open feature. A bit of a fail here I think.A great rifle though.
 
This is a non issue if TI can bring in rebuild kits. Either way does not affect my friends order of drum mages. . .I like how people are using this as a fake because to cancel there orders. Lol
 
You'd think the drum came with the gun out of the factory. There has been a mag game for years now. Some vendors include one mag when you know the factory supplies two or three. And a sling, oil bottle and cleaning tools. In the day RPK types came with a drum. Drums sold for $50 for decades too.
 
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