Marstar/SSD BD-38 review (now with pics & VIDEO!)

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Ok, well my new BD-38 is resting comfortably at home :)

No pics yet, but will get some up shortly [edit - pics and video now up later in thread]. I got the gun, mags and pouches from Marstar, the mag loader (a post-war Yugo made one that likely also originally came from Marstar) from "MilitaryTour" and a real ww2 sling off e-bay. Still looking for a sheet metal "fkip-up" muzzle cover.

I don't know how many of these BD38 guns have been manufactured thus far, but mine has a mid-20's serial number [edit - serial number is actually 0228], and the other gun I had before was serial number 6.

Here is a word of caution to potential owners that probably applies equally to real MP38's.

When you disassemble the gun, you pull the trigger ALMOST all the way, but not enough to trip the sear. If you don't do this, the sear drags along the receiver tube and gouges the finish up a bit. In any event, if you mess up on this, the finish marring remains below the woodline. This is not a criticism of the SSD product, merely a design limitation, much like the one on 1911A1's that is resonsible for the "slide release idiot scratch". Those in the know will smile at that one ;) No big deal, but I mention it because the instruction manual from SSD reads lke it was created with Babelfish. A better disassembly reference would be to purchase Mike Ingram's book on the MP40 series of sub guns. [edit: seems some scratching is unavoidable due to the design - no biggie]

I'm going to need some practice with this gun, I can tell. It's hard to hold on target while the open-bolt slams closed on a round. In prone shooting it won't matter, but standing it's going to take some getting used to. It's still way cool to own an open-bolt gun and not have a 12(x) endorsement. I'm sure some Americans are jealous of us.

One thing I did notice. I own 7 MP38und40 mags. 5 of them fit this SSD made gun well, while 2 are too tight - one doesn't go in at all, and the other is so tight that it gets stuck in the gun. Marstar is replacing those mags, no question asked. The mags in question are mid-war production and would likely fit a loosser MP40 no problem (they are real WW2 mags) but the machined MP38 (and the BD38 copy) has tighter tolerances than the stamped and welded MP40, so it's something to be aware of. Make sure all your mags fit before heading out to the range.

Overall, I'm really pleased with the gun at this point. I'll have to comment further after I've shot it a bit. If you haven't seen one in person, you would be SHOCKED how much machining is involved in manufacturing this weapon.

I'll try to give better impressions through photos in the next day or two ;)

EDIT: Once final thing to mention for now, the BD38 isn't really a copy of an MP38. It's a copy of an MP38/40 as it does have the improved bolt handle and forward safety notch that most original MP38's were retrofitted with. Also, the guns are coded to replicate "Erma - Erfurt" manufacture, not Steyr or Haenel.
 
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right on, maybe i will stop in and see one at milarm. can't wait to see some photos.

i am seriously trying to justify buying one of the FG42's if they ever appear.

either that or if they modify the stg44 to non-restricted and chamber it in 25 WSSM.

here is the question, look at what they are reproducing, why no G/K43? they scared the rug would get pulled out from under their feet if all the RC's ever come out?
 
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Congrats, these are truly beautifully machined pieces. About some mags being tight, I have about 30 and I bet 7 or eight are pretty snug-fitting into my MP40 as well.
 
here is the question, look at what they are reproducing, why no G/K43? they scared the rug would get pulled out from under their feet if all the RC's ever come out?

Personally, I think it's because they'd have to charge close to $3000 for a newly made low production G/K43, meanwhile you can buy a nice (and real) VoPo for about $2000 with a regular fireams license in most countries. Even in Canada, they come up regularly enough that anyone who wants a shooter G/K43 that has $2000 to spend on one, already has one.

On the other hand, plenty of countries like Canada, USA, Germany, etc. virtually prohibit real MP38's and Stg44's, while FG42's are unobtainium at almost ANY price. The SSD guns are the only legal alternative for most folks, though in the USA you could buy a live MP38, but at more than $15,000 for one of those, there's a market for a $3000 semi-auto.
 
ok, here are some photos of the BD38. I was mistaken about the serial number though - I don't have 20-something. I have "0228" so SSD has made at least 228 of these guns ;)
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Here is the only evidence of the sear scratching visible when the gun is assembled. It was like this when I received it.
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Here is the receiver scratching below the bakelite stock line. It seems to be from the sear skipping along the receiver when the gun is disassembled and reassembled. It was already like this when I got it. I've stripped the gun twice now and it it getting progressively worse (a little at a time).

Anyone here ever had a real MP38? Was/is this an issue on the originals?

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Just beautiful Claven. I din't realize they stamped waA's on these repros.

You'll need to indulge us all by finding a digital video camera and taking her out for a spin ;)
 
Here is the receiver scratching below the bakelite stock line. It seems to be from the sear skipping along the receiver when the gun is disassembled and reassembled. It was already like this when I got it. I've stripped the gun twice now and it it getting progressively worse (a little at a time).

Anyone here ever had a real MP38? Was/is this an issue on the originals?

Not sure if this was a problem with the WWII SMGs, but the stripping drill requires that trigger be held before you can separate the upper from the lower. Is there any extra sear "lift" because it is a semiautomatic?
 
Not sure if this was a problem with the WWII SMGs, but the stripping drill requires that trigger be held before you can separate the upper from the lower. Is there any extra sear "lift" because it is a semiautomatic?

Not exactly. If the receiver isn't installed, the sear doesn't depress at all when you pull the trigger. The trigger bar has to act on the bolt cam to leverage the sear down.

You can pull the trigger when it's assembled and retract the sear, but it pops right back up again on its own. I suspect it's a function of the semi-version firing group.

On the full-auto version, I think the sear stays depressed as long as the trigger is pulled, not the case on the semi.

This may be why the sear is contacting the receiver?

If so, I wish there was a work around before the receiver gets too banged up.
 
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