Ruger no1 triggers

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I have a Ruger no1 RSI in 30-06 and just bought(in transit right now) a no1 S in 9.3x62 and was wondering if hat are the options for aftermarket triggers?
I’m not sure what is the pull on mine and really don’t know what it is on the 9.3x62.... but I know they are somewhat “heavy” and I wouldn’t mind something a bit lighter but not sure what is practical as a hunting rifle, 2.5-3.5lbs?
The only thing I could find is from Jard and they come in 1.5, 2.5, 3.5 and 4.5....
Are the Jard available in Canada?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
 
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I’ve had a few different #1 triggers.
Kepplinger single set, jard, and a few copies of the original three screw design.

If it was me, I would talk to a well known smith like Guntech or Leeper and see if they could be talked into reworking the factory setup.
 
That is an issue that is hard to sift through "real" and BS. So many ex-milsurp swapped out to "crisp" single stage after market triggers; yet higher end rifle shooters want a two stage trigger. I am not convinced that bench rest target shooting experience, or needs, is a realistic basis for selecting a hunting trigger? Some features make sense - want repeatable performance - each pull nearly the same - not one long and draggy and then eventually fires, while next one goes off immediately. My experience with hunting is about cold - shooting with half frozen fingers - so I want trigger I can feel - I happen to like a two stage trigger with some initial movement to feel that I have it, then a second weight that fires as soon as I break it. I do not know what the numbers are - say 3 or 4 pounds as a good start at hunting. Once you have missed taking animals a half dozen times because the trigger was the problem, then adjust. Too many other things to get sorted out first - like buck fever, adrenaline, freezing, etc.
 
double gun said:
I’ve had a few different #1 triggers.
Kepplinger single set, jard, and a few copies of the original three screw design.

If it was me, I would talk to a well known smith like Guntech or Leeper and see if they could be talked into reworking the factory setup.
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Hmmm ok that could be an option!
 
Potashminer said:
That is an issue that is hard to sift through "real" and BS. So many ex-milsurp swapped out to "crisp" single stage after market triggers; yet higher end rifle shooters want a two stage trigger. I am not convinced that bench rest target shooting experience, or needs, is a realistic basis for selecting a hunting trigger? Some features make sense - want repeatable performance - each pull nearly the same - not one long and draggy and then eventually fires, while next one goes off immediately. My experience with hunting is about cold - shooting with half frozen fingers - so I want trigger I can feel - I happen to like a two stage trigger with some initial movement to feel that I have it, then a second weight that fires as soon as I break it. I do not know what the numbers are - say 3 or 4 pounds as a good start at hunting. Once you have missed taking animals a half dozen times because the trigger was the problem, then adjust. Too many other things to get sorted out first - like buck fever, adrenaline, freezing, etc.
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Yeah, I like 2 stage trigger from what I can remember.... but that is not an option here I don’t think! I’m not a benchrest shooter, I’ve taken a few moose with my 30-06 RSI, and the trigger wasn’t a problem.... but I think a lighter trigger would be nice maybe 3.5 lbs is a compromise between too sensible and not enough!!
 
I bought a no. 1 in 280 rem last year and was quite impressed with the factory trigger actually. Barely any noticeable creep and mine breaks right at 3.5 lbs which I find just about perfect for a hunting rifle. My latest Hawkeye was the same also, I was pleasantly surprised as I have put a few timney triggers in my other rugers, a tang safety and couple mkII’s.
 
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I bought a no. 1 in 280 rem last year and was quite impressed with the factory trigger actually. Barely any noticeable creep and mine breaks right at 3.5 lbs which I find just about perfect for a hunting rifle. My latest Hawkeye was the same also, I was pleasantly surprised as I have put a few timney triggers in my other rugers, a tang safety and couple mkII’s.
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I heard that the new Rugers have better trigger than then older one! The one I have right now I’m not sure of how old it is, the new to me I’m getting(in transit at the moment) is from 2014 i got told! I will wait and see before I do anything to it!!
Thank you all for the I info!!
 
I have a #1B [a 30-06 originally, but rechambered to 308 Norma Magnum]
It has a very good trigger, zero creep, and breaks consistently at 3# 4 oz
Just right for a hunting rifle, IMHO. Dave.
 
Eagleye said:
I have a #1B [a 30-06 originally, but rechambered to 308 Norma Magnum]
It has a very good trigger, zero creep, and breaks consistently at 3# 4 oz
Just right for a hunting rifle, IMHO. Dave.
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Ok good to know, I will have to find a way to measure mines and go from there!!
 
The real question, in my mind, is where and when do you hunt. Lots of guys build a rifle for those sunny load development days on the range in July which is a mistake. I grew up in the NWT and there was a real difference between hunting caribou on the barrens during the first week of September versus hunting them on the ice road in April. A light trigger and numb fingers don't go well together. So if you're in a more temperate climate then a 2.5lb might be just fine. If you spend all day in November sitting in a blind in Saskatchewan waiting for a whitetail to wander by you may want a slightly heavier trigger to get a little more tactile sensation while groping around the trigger guard with half-frozen hands.
 
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BigUglyMan said:
The real question, in my mind, is where and when do you hunt. Lots of guys build a rifle for those sunny load development days on the range in July which is a mistake. I grew up in the NWT and there was a real difference between hunting caribou on the barrens durign the first week of September versus hunting them on the ice road in April. A light trigger and numb fingers don't go well together. So if you're in a more temperate climate then a 2.5lb might be just fine. If you spend all day in November sitting in a blind in Saskatchewan waiting for a whitetail to wander by you may want a slightly heavier trigger to get a little more tactile sensation while groping around the trigger guard with half-frozen hands.
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I live in the Yukon, I’m not much of a range shooter, more of a hunter from august to October and sometimes, like this year, winter too for bison or caribou... I never played around with triggers and did pretty good in the last 24 years... so maybe I shouldn’t worry to much about it!! For some reasons I’ve been tempted in lighter triggers, probably watching to much YouTube video lol!
 
DGY said:
Ok good to know, I will have to find a way to measure mines and go from there!!
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Old school way for trigger weight - similar was used at some USA rifle competitions. Use a loop of string around trigger - lots of slack - other end of string around neck of pop bottle. Fill with water a bit at a time - want to find the weight where trigger will trip when it picks up that weight - so rifle held vertically - lifting that pop bottle by the cocked trigger. When you get just the right amount of water in bottle, that trips the trigger every time, then remove string from trigger and weigh it - bottle, water and string - like on a postal scale - that is your "trigger pull weight". I think those USA competitions had a weight with a long wire "hook" on it - a competitor's rifle had to be able to lift that weight on the cocked trigger. If trigger tripped, was set too light and the shooter was disqualified, I believe.
 
My own preference about trigger pull is not so much about the weight (within reason), but I do want it repeating - same every time. Even a bit of creep until it breaks is okay, so long as it happens each time. If you swap between multiple rifles, gets a bit more important to have them set similar. I bought a Schultz and Larsen Model 61 "free rifle" - big old heavy single shot target .22 Long Rifle - with set triggers - the only one I have with that - the thing has "gone off" many times, while I thought I was still getting settled in behind it for a shot - can hardly feel that I was actually touching it - apparently a very desirable thing when you are very good - apparently I am not!!!

To clarify about the set triggers - rifle on sand bags - aligned (sort of) with target. Chamber a round. Line up the double apertures - reach forward with index finger to trip the "setting" trigger - hear it "click", then reach back with index finger to touch the firing trigger - several times has fired because I did not realize I was already on that firing trigger and applying pressure. Not at all what I would want in the bush!!!
 
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Thank you for the measuring trick!! I will try that!! I sure don’t want a trigger so sensible that it would be “dangerous”, maybe what I really want is a good crisp trigger!!
 
There is a guy locally that I would contact if I go that route... there is no way I would sent my rifle out for gunsmiting unless I don’t have a choice!!
 
DGY said:
I live in the Yukon, I’m not much of a range shooter, more of a hunter from august to October and sometimes, like this year, winter too for bison or caribou... I never played around with triggers and did pretty good in the last 24 years... so maybe I shouldn’t worry to much about it!! For some reasons I’ve been tempted in lighter triggers, probably watching to much YouTube video lol!
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Well the stock #1 triggers can be heavy so don't think that I'm trying to disuade you from either having it worked on or swapping it out. My comment was solely a cold finger and lack of sensation warning. Still, a nice crisp 4lb trigger would go a long way toward better performance and overall satisfaction. But a super-light one might be frustrating.
 
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