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Whats on the front of ya lever gun for peep shooting?? or buckhorns?

i got the standard Model 94 gold bead..... bead busted off when i lent it to someone.... so its still a bead size but not gold..... an im not happy with it.


anyone changed them out orr... Filed heaps of it? i might make it into a point so i can be more Pin point pun intended on the Game.... at present im completely covering the critters chest an placement is poor so far..... targets r ok..... different story on the Game. i need to be more precise.

i took this from 60m.... the good shot is a follow up , first one, poor...to say the least. im not happy about it...
Perhaps it was all my fault, maybe its too early to write off the bead, but ive been thinkin it all along an i think its time to change!

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The idea of lending is funny. Once you hand something off to someone it becomes theirs. Doesn't matter how good of friends you are or anything - people don't care about what they don't own. Lucky you got back anything.
 
I use fibre optic my eyesight doesn't see a bead well. I like a wide flat top blade if not Fibre optic.it is easy to judge the middle of the blade, i dont see a point being more accurate especially if the background contrast or light conditions are not the best
 
porpoise said:
I use fibre optic my eyesight doesn't see a bead well. I like a wide flat top blade if not Fibre optic.it is easy to judge the middle of the blade, i dont see a point being more accurate especially if the background contrast or light conditions are not the best
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Are you aiming to hit at the Top of the Flat top? or Above it?

i like the idea of putting the "bead" Dot / Post /Point on the animal itself , so the Point is turning me on a bit..

i see those fancy aperture front sight, that would kind of work... put fur in the inner circle an fire? looks how ya goin but looks arnt the all.

hmmm
 
my thought is because the gold bead busted off anyway, it wont hurt to much to file it into a shape that suits... maybe the point, maybe a flat top semi circle? just taking the sides off the circle an extending the post thinner atthe top- (makes a pain transporting but i dont mind so much)
 
I use a firesight front bead from williams and Skinner low profile peep on my 30-30 I use a 6 o'clock hold zeroed at 130 yds. This gives me a mpbr of 150 on a 4" target. Drop at 200 is 17" so I hold just above back line. The dot is not fine by any means but is precise enough to allow me to hit a 6" plate out to 200 yds.
My marlin dark (45-70) has the factory XS sight/ rail and is a blade(flat top with white stripe) front sight. Again 6 o'clock hold and zero fore MPBR.
My mk1no4 enfield carbine has factory peep and aftermarket front blade ( flat top)but thinned down just enough to be precise but still good and robust.zeroed with 6 o'clock hold for mpbr.
My other iron sighted guns all have small beads of some sort with barrel mounted v notch rear sights. These have all been zeroed at 100( 6 o'clock hold) before scope where installed and are only used if there happens to be a scope failure of some kind.
When I say a 6o'clock hold I mean at zeroed range my POI is right above my bead. My bullet strike is right on top of my poa. Generally on a deer inside of 150 yds put the bead center mass of vitals and bullet will land in vitals. at distances past 150 ish( rifle dependant) hold over is required. For me 200 yds is my max range with peeps on game
 
Pretty much any size bead from pin-point to 1/8 " along with a large choice of height's is available from Brownells that will slide right on that gun...your eyesight quality will dictate how fine of a sight top you can use....you definitely need to do something if the front post is covering your aim point many times over.
 
I busted mine a while back and replaced it with one online. Major drawback is that it now snags every time I put it in a scabbard. The original sight didn't do this and it's frustrating as hell. Pulled the scabbard inside out, it just would not let go. Looking for one that doesn't snag. Might have to go with a glow type front sight, but my wife has one and they are fragile.
 
WhelanLad said:
Are you aiming to hit at the Top of the Flat top? or Above it?

i like the idea of putting the "bead" Dot / Post /Point on the animal itself , so the Point is turning me on a bit..

i see those fancy aperture front sight, that would kind of work... put fur in the inner circle an fire? looks how ya goin but looks arnt the all.

hmmm
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I like to put the top of the post right in the target. With my wishy washy trigger pull a 6 o'clock hold seems like its not there yet and offhand its not so decisive
 
I like the 6:00 hold myself. Watched a video a little while ago that extolled the virtues of a center hold for pistol sights when target shooting, but that was on paper. Fairly common for a front post to obscure the target with that hold. Just nature of the beast. For anything small, or a bit farther away, the six o'clock hold works quite well.

A little sparkly pink or orange nail polish where the bead was will help quite a bit. Did that to a couple guns, and it works. Another, I filed low, and glued a little piece of fiber optic on. That is quite visible, but as it's fallen off a few times, I'll have to find a better way to fix it there. Probably a 2 part epoxy, or a product like JB Weld.

Filing it thin might work for you, though there are replacements that might be a little better option. I've used one target sight which was a round aperture in the front instead of a post. Worked well for round bulls eye style targets, as it didn't obscure them, and would center bullets perfectly in the x if you bracketed the black rings so that a little white was visible and even all the way around. I believe I have seen another hooded front sight that looked like scope crosshairs as well.
 
John Y Cannuck said:
I busted mine a while back and replaced it with one online. Major drawback is that it now snags every time I put it in a scabbard. The original sight didn't do this and it's frustrating as hell. Pulled the scabbard inside out, it just would not let go. Looking for one that doesn't snag. Might have to go with a glow type front sight, but my wife has one and they are fragile.
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Should be able to find one that will fit a hood over for a bit more durability?
 
tactical lever said:
I like the 6:00 hold myself. . I believe I have seen another hooded front sight that looked like scope crosshairs as well.
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hey man i seen these cross hair ones. an i kind of like em ha ha- i do wonder how they would go!!!



Thanks for all the comments about how you shoot yers!

i got out to 100m today and punched two rounds onto a paper plate, again the bead takes up the plate....but two holes in the plate...

im still contemplating knocking the bead off it an makin it a fairly fine point, an basically , hittin the top of the pin.., not so much above liek a 6 hold.


im also unsure if i want the ghost ring effect or the smaller screwed in ring.... haha.... deicison.

i like the smaller hole i think
 
porpoise said:
I like to put the top of the post right in the target. With my wishy washy trigger pull a 6 o'clock hold seems like its not there yet and offhand its not so decisive
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man im same... an the whole rebounding hammer thing seems to put me out at times, sort of figued it out now after a bunch of shooting recently, but say i havnt used it for a while, first few are pretty poor....

since loweing the FPS of the load, offhand is much easier and accurate on the targets
 
WhelanLad said:
hey man i seen these cross hair ones. an i kind of like em ha ha- i do wonder how they would go!!!



Thanks for all the comments about how you shoot yers!

i got out to 100m today and punched two rounds onto a paper plate, again the bead takes up the plate....but two holes in the plate...

im still contemplating knocking the bead off it an makin it a fairly fine point, an basically , hittin the top of the pin.., not so much above liek a 6 hold.


im also unsure if i want the ghost ring effect or the smaller screwed in ring.... haha.... deicison.

i like the smaller hole i think
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No prob! Most guys that put on the aftermarket peeps like the biggest hole, or no insert at all. Your eye will center it pretty well, even with a big hole. You'll find that with a small peep (or maybe even a big one) that you will have a bit more difficulty with it in fading light.
 
The Williams Firesight is my go-to front sight; I've put them on Marlin, Winchester and Savage lever rifles.
I sight in the way I was taught as a kid: so that my point of aim coincides with the top of the sight.
I use a six-inch circle at 100 yards and hold so the top of the front sight just touches on the bottom of the circle, and dial in for a group in the centre.
 
I’ve been a lever gun fan for around 45 years. The Finest peep sight on the market are Skinners. Beautiful to use, great to look at,. You can do a lot of things with your front sight, and Skinner has plenty of options in height, thickness and material; gold or ivory beads,, blades, with and without inserts, fibre optic, you name it. Get ahold of Andrew and he’ll hook you up right. I run a fibre optic front and Skinner peep on all my lever guns regardless of maker; Rossi, Marlin, Henry and still one Winchester. I’m 65, wear tri-focals and I’m every bit as accurate at 100 yds with Skinners and a fibre optic front sight as I am with a 4X fixed scope. I have a new Marlin Dark series that I have a micro red dot mounted on it as well. You can hardly see it’s there, looks like the gun came that way, and it is absolutely fantastic. 2MOA dot, it the fastest pick up of a sight picture I’ve ever shot, VERY intuitive point shooting, easy to track and lead a running animal with both eyes wide open, and low light when other sights are getting hard to see, the MRDS is REALLY starting to shine.
The gun came with a full length picatinny rail, so if I ever need to reach out further for a shot, I have a Vortex 3X tip-out magnifier that I can mount on a quick release and it turns into a 200 yd gun, real fast
 
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