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I’ve seen a few threads on here where members refuse to consider mono metal bullets. I don’t understand why.
I love my Barnes TTSX and TSX bullets, and have used them exclusively for years for hunting. Always an exit hole, and mostly bang flop kills.
I guess they are expensive?
 
There are lots of reasons.
Price generally isn't one of them, monometal bullets are comparable in price to premium lead core.
The copper they are made from is harder then jacket copper, this means more bore wear and copper fouling, and you generally can't push them as fast as lead core.
Monometal are longer bullets for their weight, if your barrel doesn't have the right twist rate performance can suffer.
Lead core expanded better at lower velocities.

And lastly, and most importantly: If someone shoots a particular brand of bullet and it works, why would they try something new?
 
Leatherstocking said:
I’ve seen a few threads on here where members refuse to consider mono metal bullets. I don’t understand why.
I love my Barnes TTSX and TSX bullets, and have used them exclusively for years for hunting. Always an exit hole, and mostly bang flop kills.
I guess they are expensive?
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Mainly the people who are bad-mouthing them are using the bullet type as an excuse for their piss-poor shooting. ;)
 
Alpheus said:
The copper they are made from is harder then jacket copper, this means more bore wear and copper fouling, and you generally can't push them as fast
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Gilding metal jackets like those used in traditional cup and core bullets is a harder material then the straight copper used in the Barnes TSX.
 
When compared to others they have what I would say to be the highest rate of failure.I did a poll a few years back and the monos were the ones with the most reported failures.

Do they still work , yes, but what are you most comfortable with?

The more energy you leave in the animal the more drastic the shock and energy transfer, monos are second to FMJ in this area IMO.There is a balance in this game to optimize your on game performance with matching bullet to speed and intended game.
 
For me the super premium bullet market is all about marketing, and they are a waist of money. for me and my uses Hornady Interlocks or Speer Grand slams or Speer Hot cores are all I need, for paper maybe Sierra MK’s. I have never recovered a bullet from a game animal.
 
I like them, I’ve used them lots in the last 10 years on moose, they seem to work pretty good! I would like to see some that would open/mushroom a bit more and at a lower velocity, I find that out of my 30-06 at around 100m they work good but there is always lots of shank left and if they would make them to peel back a little more it would be better, and maybe 6 petals instead of four usually fou d in the barns and Hornady bullets would be even better! Now with my new to me 9.3x62 I will be going away for the mono’s and go the bounded route!
 
Leatherstocking said:
I’ve seen a few threads on here where members refuse to consider mono metal bullets. I don’t understand why.
I love my Barnes TTSX and TSX bullets, and have used them exclusively for years for hunting. Always an exit hole, and mostly bang flop kills.
I guess they are expensive?
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always bang flops? really? do you go high shoulder every time? ive used them all and nothing pokes smaller holes in lungs than a mono.
 
prairie lover said:
always bang flops? really? do you go high shoulder every time? ive used them all and nothing pokes smaller holes in lungs than a mono.
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I’ve had the same experience. I won’t use them anymore in anything less than 30 cal.

I double-lunged a whitetail buck this year at 70 yards with a 243 shooting TTSX. He ran over 400 yards before laying down. The exit hole was exactly the same size as the entry, with minimal damage to the lungs. It performed about as well as a FMJ.
 
I use TSX in my 375 and nothing else. The sectional density and ballistic coefficient aren't that great. And the window for proper performance is very narrow. The gmx bullets are really hard and don't perform at lower velocities correctly.

Essentially lead core bullets out perform on ballistics and terminal performance for general usages and diverse conditions relative to a mono. As in, a bonded bullet will generally do everything a mono will, at a wider velocity range and with better ballistics. And sometimes you want a soft bullet in a lower velocity cartridge, which a mono won't be able to deliver.
 
DGY said:
I like them, I’ve used them lots in the last 10 years on moose, they seem to work pretty good! I would like to see some that would open/mushroom a bit more and at a lower velocity, I find that out of my 30-06 at around 100m they work good but there is always lots of shank left and if they would make them to peel back a little more it would be better, and maybe 6 petals instead of four usually fou d in the barns and Hornady bullets would be even better! Now with my new to me 9.3x62 I will be going away for the mono’s and go the bounded route!
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Not a bad idea. I shot several bears with the Barnes TSX @ 65 feet and it just drills them through.
AccuBond are much more efficient....
 
I shot a half dozen cervids with TTSX bullets, but could not see them as any better than what I have been
depending on for years, The reliable Nosler Partition. [I have shot well over 100 animals with Partitions] It is
still the bullet I compare all others to. Now to qualify my statement a bit. I also use and like Swift A-Frames,
and Scirocco IIs, Accubonds and Hornady Interbonds. Dave.
 
I use Barnes bullets in all my 35 calibers for hunting. Never recovered a bullet yet. I took my mule deer doe this year with a 200gr .358 TTSX from my 35 Sambar and unfortunately the bullet exited through the opposite front shoulder and the meat from the shoulder was lost. This was a shot at just over 100 yards with a muzzle velocity of 3000 fps. Clearly the bullet had expanded. All of my elk for the past 5 years have been Barnes in some variation of a 358 caliber as was my bear this year as well numerous deer over that time. I must say, if you want true "Bang-flop" then take your deer with a 257 Weatherby with pretty make any soft point bullet;)

In addition, I have taken numerous coyote with my 35's using Barnes bullets out hunting for deer, elk, moose and have found that in these instances their expansion is variable. I have taken a coyote with my Whelen with a 225 Barnes that looked like the exit wound was created with an axe and in the same day taken one that the pelt was perfect. The beauty of a mid bore with a Barnes is that the bullet hole will be big enough no matter what happens and you can always guarantee penetration.

I guess I am saying you should start using 35 cals... haha.
 
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