New rifles delivered for Canadian Forces sniper teams

1) Unit cost: It includes previous years of extensive R&D, prototypes, trials, publication of CFTO's, procurement of specialized equipment required for manufacturing these units (plus that equipment will be used in the future for other products), training for both Snipers and Techs, parts & tooling (which was hugely important-The CAF has a bad habit of buying things and no tooling, parts or training to support it). There's so much more into this then just the "unit cost per rifle". And to those of you saying "I have basically the same thing" sorry, no you don't. This is a completely new design from the ground up. Barrels, bolts, receivers, all different and new. I can attest that this is not a run of the mill AR-10, it's in a class of it's own.
2) Bolt Guns: While it's true that these are not replacements for the C14 and C15/A2 (it's replacing the C3A1 technically), there are plans for new rifles, although nothing has been finalized or even properly trialed yet. The Army wants a multical. There's a few good options out there, which one wins is yet to be determined but we can pretty much assume that, as well as all other projects in the works for weapons replacement, are collectively and indefinitely on hold now due to COVID spending.

Hope this clears up some confusion. I won't be posting here again so if anyone would like to explain to me how I'm "wrong" you'll have to DM me.
 
DasJager said:
1) Unit cost: It includes previous years of extensive R&D, prototypes, trials, publication of CFTO's, procurement of specialized equipment required for manufacturing these units (plus that equipment will be used in the future for other products), training for both Snipers and Techs, parts & tooling (which was hugely important-The CAF has a bad habit of buying things and no tooling, parts or training to support it). There's so much more into this then just the "unit cost per rifle". And to those of you saying "I have basically the same thing" sorry, no you don't. This is a completely new design from the ground up. Barrels, bolts, receivers, all different and new. I can attest that this is not a run of the mill AR-10, it's in a class of it's own.
2) Bolt Guns: While it's true that these are not replacements for the C14 and C15/A2 (it's replacing the C3A1 technically), there are plans for new rifles, although nothing has been finalized or even properly trialed yet. The Army wants a multical. There's a few good options out there, which one wins is yet to be determined but we can pretty much assume that, as well as all other projects in the works for weapons replacement, are collectively and indefinitely on hold now due to COVID spending.

Hope this clears up some confusion. I won't be posting here again so if anyone would like to explain to me how I'm "wrong" you'll have to DM me.
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this is the nail being hit squarely on the head!

Boltgun
 
Here's the next announcement we can expect from the GOV & Colt Canada;

Colt Canada awarded 70 million dollar contract to produce 20,000 Colt Canada striker fired pistols;

1) Unit cost: It includes previous years of extensive R&D, prototypes, trials, publication of CFTO's, procurement of specialized equipment required for manufacturing these units (plus that equipment will be used in the future for other products), training for both soldiers and Techs, parts & tooling (which was hugely important-The CAF has a bad habit of buying things and no tooling, parts or training to support it). There's so much more into this then just the "unit cost per pistol". And to those of you saying "I have basically the same thing" sorry, no you don't. This is a completely new design from the ground up. Barrels, slides, frames, all different and new. I can attest that this is not a run of the mill striker fired pistol, it's in a class of it's own. There's a few good options out there, but we can pretty much assume that, as well as all other projects in the works for weapons replacement, are collectively and indefinitely on hold now due to COVID spending.
 
mildot said:
Here's the next announcement we can expect from the GOV & Colt Canada;

Colt Canada awarded 70 million dollar contract to produce 20,000 Colt Canada striker fired pistols;

1) Unit cost: It includes previous years of extensive R&D, prototypes, trials, publication of CFTO's, procurement of specialized equipment required for manufacturing these units (plus that equipment will be used in the future for other products), training for both soldiers and Techs, parts & tooling (which was hugely important-The CAF has a bad habit of buying things and no tooling, parts or training to support it). There's so much more into this then just the "unit cost per pistol". And to those of you saying "I have basically the same thing" sorry, no you don't. This is a completely new design from the ground up. Barrels, slides, frames, all different and new. I can attest that this is not a run of the mill striker fired pistol, it's in a class of it's own. There's a few good options out there, but we can pretty much assume that, as well as all other projects in the works for weapons replacement, are collectively and indefinitely on hold now due to COVID spending.
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Mildot, do you have a link to this?

Boltgun
 
Here's a good video to watch, besides being a fan of LAV, he gives you some insight into the M110. So over on the Hide, Frank has said that these rifles (M110) are 1-2 MOA guns. Why do a handful of Cdn snipers need a redesigned AR10 from the ground up as a support weapon that's sub moa?, when SEALS and Delta are using a 1-2 MOA rifle just fine?

 
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