BCL MRX Bison !!!

Brian46 said:
did you read a different ad for this rifle? Because this one says 1.5moa

You are not getting desert tech accuracy for $1000
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He's probably referring to this:

BCL said:
The LRX Arctos is BlackCreek’s answer to the requirement to make long distance first round shots count. The LRX is chambered in 308 or 6.5 Creedmoor and is fitted with a BlackCreek short action that guarantees half minute accuracy. The chassis is available with two folding stock and one fixed stock option. The underside has an integrated arca swiss point for direct tripod mounting and it also comes with a universal adapter plate for additional mounting options. The LRX Arctos chassis uses MDT mounting points, so MDT ESS rails and stocks are interchangable.

The Arctos is fitted with a triggertech Rem 700, 2-stage trigger with zero-creep break, tactile pull weight adjustment and four points of safety.
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Short action Arctos Vs Super short action Bison. 1/2 MOA Vs 1 1/2 MOA. Interesting that there's that much of a difference. I wouldn't have expected it if the design of the action is the same (just the sizing changes), but I'm far from an expert.
 
LordEvilPepper said:
What he said was correct, just bad punctuation and sentence order lol.
The rifle mags have to be pinned to 5. The 10 round pistol mags will work though.

BLC/NEA failed at semi auto in my opinion.
, im interested how these do, but im not spending my money to find out lol.

The mini action is amazing, and a tactical version to compete with howas is a welcome item. But i do agree with others, this thing needs to go on a diet.. HB with a synethetic or lamanet stock would be cool. But i know thats a fantasy; as BLC makes everything by machining lol.
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Even compromising with a lighter side medium profile barrel would probably knock 3/4 lbs off at least
 
hawk-i said:
Yes, I was referring to the LRX Arctos https://blackcreeklabs.com/portfolio_page/lrxarctos/
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Brian46 said:
I think they are targeting the demographic that wants a lead hose vs the light easy to carry and accurate hunting rifle crowd.
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hawk-i said:
Actually on their latest bolt gun they are saying 1/2 moa accuracy...:)
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But it's way heavier again at 10.5 lbs, still pandering to the lead hose market vs hunting where people want light easy to carry (short) and accurate
 
Brian46 said:
But it's way heavier again at 10.5 lbs, still pandering to the lead hose market vs hunting where people want light easy to carry (short) and accurate
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No, the LRX is pandering to the same market as the RPR, Savage Stealth, Etc....and none of them come with 1/2 guarantee. The only rifle I own that came with a 1/2 moa guarantee is my Fierce Carbon Edge.

My RPR would do .6 to .7 MOA in factory trim...now its is easy 1/2 moa but that is after a barrel change and 2 stage trigger upgrade.

Getting back to the Bison, the ranger with a 16.5 barrel @7 lbs...I'd be ok with that...doesn't put it in the same weight class as my Kimber Ascent but hey its < 1k dollars and comes with a TT trigger...I'd be disappointed with 1.5MOA though...hell my 102 would do 1 MOA with 150SST's (and I'll add, has never had a feeding or extraction problem) :)
 
LordEvilPepper said:
HB with a synethetic or lamanet stock would be cool. But i know thats a fantasy; as BLC makes everything by machining lol.
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Probably a proprietary action screw spacing so they'd have to invest in stock making or have someone else do it for them, that's the same kind of uphill battle as those asking for proprietary mags.

Heavy barrel with a cheap plastic stock would feel super nose heavy IMO, at least with the chassis there's some weight back of the barrel.
 
hawk-i said:
No, the LRX is pandering to the same market as the RPR, Savage Stealth, Etc....and none of them come with 1/2 guarantee. The only rifle I own that came with a 1/2 moa guarantee is my Fierce Carbon Edge.

My RPR would do .6 to .7 MOA in factory trim...now its is easy 1/2 moa but that is after a barrel change and 2 stage trigger upgrade.

Getting back to the Bison, the ranger with a 16.5 barrel @7 lbs...I'd be ok with that...doesn't put it in the same weight class as my Kimber Ascent but hey its < 1k dollars and comes with a TT trigger...I'd be disappointed with 1.5MOA though...hell my 102 would do 1 MOA with 150SST's (and I'll add, has never had a feeding or extraction problem) :)
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Desert tech srs A2 covert is lighter, shorter, larger caliber and has 1/2 moa guarantee which it is actually well under when you do your part as I quickly found out.

I would be very surprised if BCL accuracy comes in at 1/2moa or less even in a heavy tank of a rifle
 
BioPace said:
Probably a proprietary action screw spacing so they'd have to invest in stock making or have someone else do it for them, that's the same kind of uphill battle as those asking for proprietary mags.

Heavy barrel with a cheap plastic stock would feel super nose heavy IMO, at least with the chassis there's some weight back of the barrel.
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They need to ditch the heavy barrel
 
What is the word on these Wolverine? Are they in production or not? BCL brags about all the state of the art tech they have to make rifles, are they building or not? Most of us have been burned by BCL in the past so we are going to be asking a lot of questions and expecting answers.
 
huntersjz said:
I'd have more faith in rifle specs posted on BCL website IF they use actual prototype photos instead of CGI...
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Did you know that all modern firearms are designed on a computer, and that those designs usually end up looking like an image?

It's pretty neat.
 
Xero said:
Did you know that all modern firearms are designed on a computer, and that those designs usually end up looking like an image?

It's pretty neat.
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Yes, but the lead time from 'here's an image I made in MSPaint' to 'here's a working firearm that doesn't suck and you can buy' is not nothing. Especially for BCL.
 
BioPace said:
Yes, but the lead time from 'here's an image I made in MSPaint' to 'here's a working firearm that doesn't suck and you can buy' is not nothing. Especially for BCL.
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Theres some prototypes on their instagram but I agree, not hopeful for a fast release.
 
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