scope failure

300winman said:
I wonder if I put those skinny spare tires on my Camaro,and tried to run the quarter mile in 12.5 secs,would they make it!And if they burnt off in the first 100 feet would I get warranty.C'mon ! If you want some bang for your 50.00,spend an afternoon with your pals & check out the rippers at the bar!!!:p
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How does the topic go from scope failure to t!ts in one sentence????
Forget I asked that, we're gunnutz afterall.
You've got a good point too 300winman.............:D
 
I had nothing but great service from Bushnel. Years ago I had a Bushnel Trophy that I had to send back, and just for fun I asked the guy for the new Bausch&Lomb Elite 3000 , and two days later it arrived by courrier. Also sent back a pair of old and abused bino's that they replaced happily.
 
Make sure when you do send the scope back for repairs and it has a big ass hole in it. Give us a heads up on their reponse.:) Bushnell does have a lifetime warranty on elites but turn around time is 6 months at least in my situation. Pretty crappy IMO.
 
I've got a Bushnell Trophy, mid 80's production, $159.99, with the range dialing knobs on my rem model 600 in .308 win and I totally love it. It's been on that rifle for nearly twenty years and is dead accurate and I've never had to adjust it unless I changed my ammo. The range dialing feature is really kick ass; I consistently get first round hits wherever I want up to 350 yards in real life conditions with this little combo.
 
dont they make special fixed power mag scopes for something like a .375 H&H? :)

i generally buy Leupold, but i have a couple Bushnell Legend scopes - admittedly on nothing more powerful than a .30-06 - and theyve served me quite well with no failures yet.

if i wanted to scope a magnum rifle with heavy recoil - or something like the M14/Mini-14 that does a number on scopes - id get something higher quality in a fixed power.

honestly for the average Joe hunter who isnt a gunophile theyre probably better off with something like a Bushnell Legend than investing $1000 into a scope thats going to see 3 shots a year.

that said the cheap sub-$100 Wally-World™ Bushnells like the Sportsman are total garbage, i wouldnt even put them on a .22.
 
zedex said:
Make sure when you do send the scope back for repairs and it has a big ass hole in it. Give us a heads up on their reponse.:) Bushnell does have a lifetime warranty on elites but turn around time is 6 months at least in my situation. Pretty crappy IMO.
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I want to at least give them a chance to make good as the scope was not abused or even dropped. I originally sent in a nice older Japanese Bushnell 6x for them to recharge the nitrous as it worked fine but was fogging up. They kept my 6x for 8 months and then after umpteen phone calls they sent me the Banner piece of crap. If I don't get better customer service this time the scope will be going to the range with me and set up downrange. They will get it back with a through and through and they will know I'm through and through with their crappy scopes.
 
Boomer said:
Any scope can fail; regardless of cost! For that reason it is prudent to have a seond scope or back up irons for your rifle, especially if you are on a big dollar hunt. If a scope failure screws up your weekend that's bad enough, but it doesn't need to if you have a "Plan B".
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On a big dollar hunt or far away hunt, it would be a good idea to have that second scope actually mounted on a second rifle ;) That way, there's no fiddling sighting in & wasting precious hunting time.

I only have Bushnell scopes on rifles of low recoil such as my .223 or less. Anything larger for me is scoped Leupold. I lie, I did mount a Bausch & Lomb on my .444 - what is the general concensus on those scopes? So far mine seems good.
 
the current Bushnell Elite 3200/4200 is the old Bausch and Lomb line.

a lot of the high dollar big game/safari rifles ive seen have a quality quick release mount system and two identical, boresighted scopes, generally a lower fixed power like 4x.... so if one scope fails they just pop on the other one and should be within an inch or so of zero.

i sortof do this with one rifle, not for safari use (i wish), just for utility. i have a 2.5x28mm scope and a 4-12x40mm that i can switch out depending on what i need, and while they never return to a perfect zero they are close enough for hunting purposes.
 
manbearpig said:
the current Bushnell Elite 3200/4200 is the old Bausch and Lomb line.
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A little history lesson about B&L, Bushnell and branding manipulation.

Baush and Lomb bought Bushnell in 1971, shutting down their Rochester facility at about that time. Any scope with B&L on it after that time, was produced through the Bushnell network, though Bushnell doesn't manufacture anything itself. The old Bal Var, Baltwo, Balfor, Balsix and such were pretty good stuff, even if B&L didn't actually make them.
In 1995 B&L sold Bushnell but licensed their name to Bushnell, who felt they had to raise their image. The 3000 and 4000 Elites that you are referring to capitalised on an old and respected brand name, even if B&L hadn't made a scope in 15 years or so. In 2004 B&L pulled the licensing deal, perhaps sick of Bushnell prostituting their good name.

So are the 3200s and 4200s the old B&L 3000 and 4000s? Yes.

Were the 3000 and 4000s really Baush and Lombs? Not a chance.

Does Bushnell make a decent scope? Nope, Bushnell doesn't make any scopes.

Brandings a #####.
 
Dogleg said:
I busted a s**tload of Bushnells, and I never even tried the cheaper lines. J-U-N-K.
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Are you just generally hard on your "stuff", then?

Reason I ask is that I've been shooting rifle for going on 30 years. Owned/shot lots of 'em. Owned lots of scopes, Bushnells included. I have never "busted" a scope or had one fail on me. These days my rifles usually get higher end Bushnells or mid to higher end Leupolds, though.

But I was just curious just how you "busted" so many scopes? .... :confused:
 
NAA,
Simple really, I shoot more in a good week than most shooters will shoot in their life. Most of my stuff looks new though, til you look inside the barrels.
Any other questions?
 
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Dogleg said:
NAA,
Simple really, I shoot more in a good week than most shooters will shoot in their life. Most of my stuff looks new though, til you look inside the barrels.
Any other questions?
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Well, I'm damn jealous then... :redface: I just wish I had that kind of free time... ;)
 
The last time I used Bushnell service for an older Scopechief,turnaround time was 3 months. The turnaround time on the Leupolds was only three weeks.However they were new and almost new scopes, Vari-X III and a VX-3.Since then the last couple of scopes have been Bushnell 4200s, used even.
 
NAA,
When I'm at work I can't touch my guns. When I'm home it's usually for a week or two at a time, and I live 5 minutes from the range.
I picked up a PSS .300 mag at the Swift Current gunshow the other Sunday,and had 400 rounds through it by Thursday. (Fridayand Saturday I went hunting instead) It's hard to say how much I shot other rifles while the barrel was cooling, but about half that plus a couple hundred .223s out of a Varmint synthetic fluted that is functionally identical to the PSS except for color and caliber. Good for flinch checking. All in all, a pretty ordinary week. Nothing broke.:D
 
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I've owned a few Bushnells and a few Leupolds, the only "bad" scope I ever had was a Leupold Rifleman. POS. I just threw it out.

I'm currently using a 3-9*40 3200 on my hunting rig, and it seems to work fine. I'm planning on buying another VX-II or III this year.
 
what was wrong with the Rifleman? Why would you throw it out when Leupold would fix or repair it and you could sell it?
 
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