Norma data for 150 grain 9.3 bullets

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Some years ago I had bought at a estate auction a couple boxes of Norma bullets 9.3 mm 150 grain No. 69304. In any of the Norma load books I have seen there is no reference for the use of the bullet in any of the various 9.3 calibers. Its quite a bit lighter than normal bullet weights. Has anybody seen any load data for 150 grain? I'd guess this is 80's production . The booklet that I do have is the Norma Gunbug's guide No. 63 and Tech info No. 7. The modern data online doesnt seem to have anything.
 
Hi, i don't have any data. I come across 9.3x72R which has a standard factory loading with a 200 grain bullet. Maybe look in that caliber direction
 
I found on google, reference to 154 bullets having been factory loaded by Norma for 9.3x57. A picture of Norma #69304 bullet box shows them as 154 grain. The cartridge listing using that bullet says it is a Round Nose FMJ bullet. Fix the link and go here to see pictures -

ht tps://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/9-3mm-365-norma-index-69304-bullets/40244/3
 
VV has data - they list 3, 9,3 caliber. Which cartridge to you have ?
Online manual is avail, but the lowest bullet listed is 193 grains in 9,3
 
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That's it . Those bullets were more of a target/ target load. I have been working up a target load but it would be nice to have published data.

Load data for any 9.3mm? - that's too wide open. What would you use them in?

In the 9.3X62, 35 Whelen Loads would work, but your MV's and pressure will be lower in a 9.3X62 than if it was shot in a 35 Whelen, and higher if shot in a 9.3X57, problem is that neither (nor hardly any 35 Cal/9.3mm rifle) will have published 150 gr loads available.

358 Win and 350 Rem Mag have case capacities similar to the 9.3X57 and 9.3X62:

358 Win - 57 cc's
9.3X57 - 64 cc's
350 Rem Mag - 73 cc's
9.3X62 - 77 cc's

Going to Lyman Cast Bullet data they have load data for 150 grain cast bullets for the 358 Win, and 350 Rem Mag. Assuming you have a modern strong action, you could use these loads with your 9.3mm 150 gr jacketed bullets - 150 gr 358 Win loads for the 9.3X57, and 150 gr 350 Rem Mag loads for the 9.3X62:

358 Win Cast Bullet Load Data.jpg

350 Rem Mag Cast Bullet Load Data.jpg

How does this compare to the loads you had started to develop?
 

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Load data for any 9.3mm? - that's too wide open. What would you use them in?

In the 9.3X62, 35 Whelen Loads would work, but your MV's and pressure will be lower in a 9.3X62 than if it was shot in a 35 Whelen, and higher if shot in a 9.3X57, problem is that neither (nor hardly any 35 Cal/9.3mm rifle) will have published 150 gr loads available.

358 Win and 350 Rem Mag have case capacities similar to the 9.3X57 and 9.3X62:

358 Win - 57 cc's
9.3X57 - 64 cc's
350 Rem Mag - 73 cc's
9.3X62 - 77 cc's

Going to Lyman Cast Bullet data they have load data for 150 grain cast bullets for the 358 Win, and 350 Rem Mag. Assuming you have a modern strong action, you could use these loads with your 9.3mm 150 gr jacketed bullets - 150 gr 358 Win loads for the 9.3X57, and 150 gr 350 Rem Mag loads for the 9.3X62:

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How does this compare to the loads you had started to develop?

I shoot quite a bit of cast in the 9.3's , have a NOE gas check mold and I had Leo at Boomers molds in Regina build a plain base mold. Its a lot cheaper to shoot than buying jacketed bullets. The privi 285 grain are the cheapest I have found. Lots of good data for the larger bullets.
 
I shoot quite a bit of cast in the 9.3's , have a NOE gas check mold and I had Leo at Boomers molds in Regina build a plain base mold. Its a lot cheaper to shoot than buying jacketed bullets. The privi 285 grain are the cheapest I have found. Lots of good data for the larger bullets.

The only cast bullet I shoot out of my 9.3X62 is the NOE 358009. The light stuff just doesn't make sense to me. I bought it in a Group Buy on the "Castboolits" site. It's a four cavity with GC and one Hollow-Point.
 
I believe the 154 grain .365 bullets are intended for use in the 9mm Makarov. I have tried some in a 9.3x57 Husqvarna using a mild charge of H4895. I’ve only tried a few loads and the results were not great. Way off the fixed sights and very sooty cases, low pressure. Back burner project and what to do with 90 Makarov bullets.

Nick
 
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