BCL's New Rifles

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Hey all,

I will certainly regret starting this thread, but I can't help myself. I had 3 BCL rifles and all of them had no problems whatsoever, so I never joined the anti NEA/BCL bandwagon.

BCL has a new line of rifles on the way, and I personally find them interesting, especially the in house designed action of the bison model. There are also a couple of rem 700 action copies in chassis coming.


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He mentions the bison has a 3 lug design, and a 60 degree throw. 12.5" barrel, 6.9lbs. Not only that, it's retailing for around a grand, pretty interesting. It will be in 7.62x39, 223, and 300blk. I would hope a 6.5 Grendel version eventually comes out as well.

I will likely get a bison model for fun plinking at med distance. I don't expect stellar accuracy, I think 1.5moa isn't unreasonable to expect. I could get that with their BCL-102. I'm a sucker for shorty rifles, especially shorty precision rifles, so youay see why I am somewhat excited about this.

Thoughts?
 
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All I got out of that entire video was something about them making a part for a "device that does needleless vaccinations".

Sorry about derailing so quickly but seriously.... what in the actual fruck is that anyways?
 
While this is an aesthetically good looking bolt gun and I am a lifetime fanboy of the Remington 700 footprint...I would wait and good long while before every considering purchasing this gun.... wait and see what kind of Gremlins may (or may not) pop up.

Whenever I hear the brand name "BCL" I will never forget how my best friend was in on one of the first batches for the 102s.
He pre-ordered and waited 4-5 months past the expected delivery date. Within 3 days after it arrived, he listed the gun as NIB on the equipment exchange and fortunately got his money back (b4 all the reviews started coming in).... it was wise of him to sell as the machining (fit and finish) was armature at best. It will take a while before shake that stigma.
 
Munkey1973 said:
While this is an aesthetically good looking bolt gun and I am a lifetime fanboy of the Remington 700 footprint...I would wait and good long while before every considering purchasing this gun.... wait and see what kind of Gremlins may (or may not) pop up.

Whenever I hear the brand name "BCL" I will never forget how my best friend was in on one of the first batches for the 102s.
He pre-ordered and waited 4-5 months past the expected delivery date. Within 3 days after it arrived, he listed the gun as NIB on the equipment exchange and fortunately got his money back (b4 all the reviews started coming in).... it was wise of him to sell as the machining (fit and finish) was armature at best. It will take a while before shake that stigma.
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Hmm weird. I got one of the first batch and had no issues. In fact I preferred it to the later generations. It was more than I expected for what I got, and I put almost 1k of rounds through it with no issues. In fact I was pretty amazed. I bought a second and third gen and those both functioned very well too. I heard some legitimate horror stories, and some not so legitimate. A lot of the stories about terrible reliability were from "I know a guy who knows a guy" after asking people. I only go by what I experience now, there seems to be too much bs on here. As soon as one person has an issue everyone suddenly thinks all of the guns have issues instead of realizing it's the minority. Remember when that guy had a Ruger gunsite scout blow up (eventually traced to bad ammo)? Even now you will see people reference that as to why the gunsite scouts are "garbage". What a joke lol

I'll give it a chance. I understand there are lemons out there but they are certainly few and far between. Not what folks on here would have you believe. I'm not so much defending BCL as much as just stating what I see to be the truth. BCL clearly let out some rifles that should never have passed QA/QC at the factory, noone is disputing that.

I'll be your guinea pig :p
 
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I have to say, all the choices they make look very questionable to me:

Making 2 new bolt actions and a pistol. I mean talk about hedging their bets for sure, but in terms of time to market and quality and complexity of manufacturing...

If you are with MDT and building to their butt stocks and whatnot, why would you go to magpul for essentially the same folding thing, but you now need 2 different interfaces and adapters.

Design a short short bolt action for AR-15 mag, make action a hair shorter than rem and add a massive chunk of metal as a hand guard s it will have integral arca rail? Just attach a boat anchor for the same effect, a lot of people use boats more than they use arca rail on a 12.5 inch barrel gun.

Decide to make a full size bolt gun with rem 700 footprint action Arkos or whatever the name is. And start doing your own chassis to it, but have MDT make butt stock, but the chassis is your own. Yet saying you want everything to be more affordable. This is exactly the opposite. You didn't have enough choice with MDT rem 700 stocks to make yet another?

Strange, strange feeling I have to say.
 
owlowl said:
I have to say, all the choices they make look very questionable to me:

Making 2 new bolt actions and a pistol. I mean talk about hedging their bets for sure, but in terms of time to market and quality and complexity of manufacturing...

If you are with MDT and building to their butt stocks and whatnot, why would you go to magpul for essentially the same folding thing, but you now need 2 different interfaces and adapters.

Design a short short bolt action for AR-15 mag, make action a hair shorter than rem and add a massive chunk of metal as a hand guard s it will have integral arca rail? Just attach a boat anchor for the same effect, a lot of people use boats more than they use arca rail on a 12.5 inch barrel gun.

Decide to make a full size bolt gun with rem 700 footprint action Arkos or whatever the name is. And start doing your own chassis to it, but have MDT make butt stock, but the chassis is your own. Yet saying you want everything to be more affordable. This is exactly the opposite. You didn't have enough choice with MDT rem 700 stocks to make yet another?

Strange, strange feeling I have to say.
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The arca adapter isn't on the 12.5 bison, it is on the arctos, a long range rifle that is a different thing altogether. Maybe watch the video in full before judging?

Also he states that he is designing and manufacturing what The distributor wants. They are only making what they are told to (likely by north Sylva).
 
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So this bison fore end with a profile of a brick and ergonomics of two by four is not shaped like that to have a rail installed underneath? What is the reason then?
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Dito.. for a handy ranch rifle, why the 2x4 front handguard? Seems like it has a hard time deciding what it wanted to be. A precision 1.5” rifle, or a handy light ranch rifle.
 
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Dito.. for a handy ranch rifle, why the 2x4 front handguard? Seems like it has a hard time deciding what it wanted to be. A precision 1.5” rifle, or a handy light ranch rifle.
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That didn’t make sense to me either. 1.5MOA? I get that with my 22LR T1X and a particularly good 10/22.
 
I had a 102 second gen and it worked really well I had no issues with it and it was very accurate with handloads
The coyote was very promising I liked it better then the wk180 and the ws mcr
Too bad the rottin horse gestapo put them on the frt list
I think bcl should come out with a new semi auto design in both 223 and 308
 
Oh yeah. I'm totally going to rush out and buy a bolt action from BCL for $1000. :rolleyes:

If a new production bolt gun can't do MOA or better with handloads is it even worth owning?
 
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